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[ Unconstitutional War] US joins Israel in declaring war on Iran

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Jun 12, 2025.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    If Israel appears to be completely defeated and past the point of recovery (no peace deal, no US coming to the aid) then I fully expect Turkey to mobilize and march south to “maintain security” and take over like they did with Syria.

    I don’t expect Israel will tie or lose however. I expect the US to come in and end this a la Iraq 03 or Israel to start using its nuclear arsenal if things start looking existential.
     
  2. deb4rockets

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    I never know what to expect with Trump, because his buddies Kim Jong Un, Putin, and Erdogan seem to be siding with Iran. Nove of any of those leaders seem to have a problem commiting crimes against humanity though, including Israel.
     
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  3. Ubiquitin

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    Now Israel is attacking Southern Lebanon, despite Hezbollah and ultimately Lebanon adhering to the ceasefire.
     
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    Like I said, all of the leaders of those countries are committing, or have been commiting war crimes. In fact, Israel is as we speak as well.
    Once again....

    Israeli military kills 23 Palestinians near aid site in Gaza,

    Israeli forces have killed 23 Palestinians after opening fire on crowds gathered near an aid distribution site, witnesses and medics say.

    Tanks and drones fired at thousands of people near a distribution centre in central Gaza run by the US and Israel-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), the witnesses and medics said.

    The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said troops fired warning shots after people gathered nearby. An Israeli aircraft then struck "several suspects" who the IDF said continued walking towards troops.

    The GHF has denied a shooting occurred near its sites. The Hamas-run health ministry says more than 400 Palestinians have been killed in similar incidents since late May.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0vgerp402o

    According to data released by the World Health Organization (WHO) on June 14, out of Gaza’s 36 hospitals, none are fully operational. 17 are offering limited services, while the remaining nineteen have ceased functioning entirely.


    Additionally, the broader healthcare system in Gaza—including ambulances, field hospitals, and clinics—has been targeted in over 700 attacks since the war began, resulting in at least 900 deaths and more than 1,000 injuries.


    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/...hospitals-a-healthcare-war-crimes-fact-check/
     
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    So we're gonna have the rally cry of "preventing WWIII" put on the backburner next to the price of eggs now?
     
  6. Commodore

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    Ace is the best
    https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=415332

    They want a ceasefire as a condition for talking about a ceasefire. This is the same position that Hamas has taken.

    It's the Muslim way of war.

    I'm tired of it. I've been a bit sharp with people lately. I am just so sick of this endless cycle of Muslims murdering people in terrorist attacks and then crying to the press that they're the Real Victims Here when anyone fights back.

    At some point, they have to be taught that if they want war, they're going to get war.

    And not just a quickie bombing. A full, sustained campaign of bombing and assassinations.

    They need to feel what it's like to be afraid.

    They don't get enough of this. Their preferred method of "war" is to butcher and rape innocent civilians, then cry to the press that they're victims of "genocide." This gets all the European countries to condemn Israel, or the US, and then everyone stops making war back against the war-mongers, and the cycle continues.

    Forever, and ever, and ever, and ever. And why should they stop? They get to murder and rape civilians and then cry "genocide" and hide behind the skirts of Mama Media and the feckless dying Europeans and pay no price.

    Until this time.

    This is an important moment. This is when Iran and its proxy terrorist armies of Hamas and Hezballah finally learn what terror feels like themselves.

    And I don't want this to stop until all the terror masters are dead.
     
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    ^^^ non secure connection link...^^^
     
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    It would only be if you could meaningfully delay their nuclear ambitions, solely targeted on those facilities that Israel cannot reach on their own. The inconvenient truth is that a nuclear Iran is a nightmare scenario for the Western world
     
  9. Ubiquitin

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    I don’t think Iran is asking for a ceasefire. Their president said something to the effect Israel needs to be taught a lesson and cannot be allowed to harm Iran again.

    Israel is also not asking for a ceasefire. It’s kind of strange that there really are no real calls for a cease-fire compared to almost every other conflict we’ve seen in recent decades.

    The US may not commit to troops on the ground/active combat roles, and this may end up being a real proxy war between the West and the East until either Israel or Iran collapses as neither the US nor Russia/China are clamoring for ceasefire, nor would a ceasefire be be viable given the nature of Israel’s initial attack or Iran’s response.

    then again warfare is inherently unpredictable, and none of us can truly say where this ends.
     
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    So according to orange buffoon, we can’t even trust our own intelligence agency? Why hasn’t Tulsi Gabbard been fired? She must have no clue what she’s doing
     
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    It's hard to say which is true, because there both LIARS....................Tulsi said, there not close just a few months ago, Israel has said for years that Iran is "minutes away". I am not sure how trump knows she is wrong as he doesn't attend a ton of briefings and has the attention span of a 2 year old brat. Now Tulsi is saying the press manipulated her message which is a lie as its PLAIN as day

    If she is that far off, she needs to go, if she is right and Bibi "convinced" trump than that's a different problem...................trumps ego got in the way and he has to play the hero :rolleyes:

    I dont know if Iran has nukes but one thing I am now convinced of is we need to relook at aid to Israel, between obliterating Gaza and now a preemptive strike on Iran is not something I support to the level of aid we currently give......................yet we cant give anything to Ukraine any more


    The U.S. provides significant military and economic aid to Israel. Specifically, the U.S. commits approximately $3.8 billion annually to Israel, primarily through Foreign Military Financing (FMF), according to the Council on Foreign Relations and USAFacts. This aid is intended to support Israel's security and defense capabilities.
     
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    @astros123 is gonna love seeing this one
     
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    @Commodore the p***y got his lube out for no reason. We all know this ****ing loser would never fight in any war. Glued to his low intelligence tweets

    edit: just clicked on his link, what type of neo-nazi white supremacist websites are you subscribed to my dude? I am legit worried about your health.
     
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    Weren't we told the same thing about north Korea? Has north Korea ever attacked a neighbor? Pakistan and India have had clashes and they both have nukes yet neither has ever used them or sincerely threatened to either? Russia hasn't used nukes in Ukraine even though they've had 300k+ KIA....the USA threatening to nuke Iran when we aren't even at war with them is more irresponsible than anything else

    There's no evidence that Iran is even developing a nuclear weapon and second even if they did i dont buy the notion that they would use it.
     
  15. DatRocketFan

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    Its like when he did that press conference with putin and chose to side with putin over our intelligence agency. Yet we have magatards praising the man for his patriotism
     
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    Tulsi said more than just the one liner being spread all over the internet right now.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2025/06/trump-gabbard-comments-on-iran-nuclear-capability/

    "The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003. The IC continues to monitor closely if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. In the past year, we have seen an erosion of a decades-long taboo in Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear weapons advocates within Iran’s decision-making apparatus. Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."

    Interesting how that last part in the quote isn't being talked about at all. Here is the video of her statement...

     
  17. astros123

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    Nothing in that quote you stated proves anything different. You can use enriched uranium for tons of civilians purposes like energy. This isn't some gotcha. Trump had agreed on allowing iran to enrich uranium for civilian purposes until bibi called the WH and pressured Trump.

    You are fighting for the interest Israel. Don't gas light people that this is about America
     
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    We do need regime change

    We need to take out netanyahu . Leading his people to war and his country to ruin , Jews worldwide targets ....all because he doesn't want to face his corruption charges

    Remember before Oct 7th Israelis were protesting him and wanted him gone

    Oct 7th was the best thing to happen to netanyahu

    Then he pushes past a point of no return with gaza and now decides to take care of Iran now that most Israelis don't fear Palestine.

    Schmuck of the highest degree

    How many years has he been saying Iran is a year away ?

    Iran is on the 2 yd line 1!1!1!
     
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  19. lionaire

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    That’s hardly the “truth” idk how you reached that conclusion. Even after Trump destroyed the JCPOA, Iran still cooperated with the IAEA and allowed foreign investigations into their nuclear facilities.

    Meanwhile there’s another state in the region who possesses undeclared nukes and refuses to participate in any nuclear treaty or allow any investigations into their facilities.
     
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    These right wingers have been brainwashed by right wing media to fear Iran as this boogeyman. Its so delusional to think Iran somehow is somehow going to hurt America on the other side of the world.
     
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