Israel conducts preemptive airstrikes hitting Iranian targets

Trump now says he will decide within 2 weeks whether US attacks or not. I use that strategy on my kids when they for something and I don't actually want to give it to them.
So I guess this is a No. The US won't be dragged in.

 

That is an ignorant, unintellectual and childish response. You have read this entire thread day after day and are spending a lot of time here. I am sure you read the post. If not, why spend much time debating and discussing on a Houston Rockets basketball forum?

 

If I am being honest, I am stressed by where this conflict goes and I don't want to talk about it to my in real life peers. I cannot change the eventual outcome. The Iraq war is still fresh in my mind. Posting here is how I am processing it.

 

Do you mean free Palestine like ruled by Hamas, Nezam IR, Taliban, Isis with oppressive, often violently controlled and enforced sharia?

Or do you mean free Palestine like where you live where people can read, listen to, wear and believe what they want and love who they want?

 

And Trump is in all the pockets - Russia, Israel, Saudi, Qatar, etc. He’s going to waffle, probably drop some bunker busters and call it a day. Then announce victory.

 

My dream is this:
Or do you mean free Palestine like where you live where people can read, listen to, wear and believe what they want and love who they want?

 

I would bet congress passes an emergency bill forcing transfer of the Trump jet and a bunker busting MOAB to Israel so Israel can destroy this eastern Nuclear site.

I suspect Israel will send in commandos.

 

I anticipated to do something more fun on my off day but here we're. SoIs de ceux qui relèvent les autres il y a deja trop de gens qui les funt tomber I assume what you posted was just a draft heavily influenced by your bias! very selective content with so much twist to the truth.

Properties plz, worth some good fortune, though Im more comfortable being minimalist ,it enable me to donate more to those in need who happens to be impacted by being incompatible to the jewish state (even prophet Issa wasn't good enough ) nor you be good enough, its them vs subhuman/Cattle, funny to think they thought of Trump as the new golden calf!

 

That is not remotely close to what the article says.

 

President Trump has been briefed on both the risks and the benefits of bombing Fordo, Iran's most secure nuclear site, and his mindset is that disabling it is necessary because of the risk of weapons being produced in a relatively short period of time, multiple sources told CBS News.

"He believes there's not much choice," one source said. "Finishing the job means destroying Fordo."

The president approved attack plans on Iran on Tuesday night, but has not made a final decision on whether to strike the country and formally join Israel's air campaign, a senior intelligence source and a Defense Department official told CBS News on Wednesday. Mr. Trump held off on deciding to strike in case Tehran agrees to abandon its nuclear program, the sources said.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said the president will make a decision on whether to order a strike within the next two weeks.

"Based on the fact that there is a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks," Mr. Trump said in a statement read by Leavitt at the White House press briefing.

CBS News previously reported that Mr. Trump was weighing a strike on Fordo, a subterranean uranium enrichment facility. Israel has not conducted any known strikes on Fordo since it began bombing Iranian nuclear and military targets late last week.

Trump's decision
Mr. Trump is willing to get the U.S. involved if that's what it takes to knock out the site, sources said. As of Thursday, he was still reviewing his options and has not made a firm decision either way. He has discussed the logistics of using bunker-buster bombs, two of the sources said.

It was not immediately clear how much of the U.S. military infrastructure needed for a strike was in place or how much time it would take to move assets into position.

One option Mr. Trump has considered is that Iran could disable Fordo on its own, if its leaders so choose, two of the sources said.

David Lammy, the foreign secretary of the U.K., is set to meet with Secretary of State Marco Rubio in Washington later Thursday, a European official said, with active diplomacy underway to find an off-ramp in the conflict and make a take-it-or-leave-it offer to Iran. London maintains an embassy in Tehran, giving the U.K. visibility that the U.S. does not have in the Iranian capital.

Mr. Trump is aware of the diplomatic effort being undertaken, with the foreign ministers of Germany, France and Great Britain, as well as the high representative of the EU, set to meet with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi in Geneva on Friday.

Mr. Trump has viewed intelligence reports indicating the estimated speed at which Iran could produce bombs, two of the sources said.

John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, has said in closed-door settings that Iran is viewed as being very close to possessing nuclear weapons, according to multiple sources.

Ratcliffe has said that claiming Iran isn't close would be similar to saying football players who have fought their way to the one-yard line don't want to score a touchdown, one U.S. official said.

Congressional committees that have been briefed by senior CIA analysts have been told the intelligence community's view remains that no order to weaponize has been given by the supreme leader and that Iran has not restarted research on a delivery mechanism for a nuclear bomb.

The CIA declined to comment.

Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Wednesday that "so far, at least, the intelligence community has stood by its conclusion that Iran is not moving towards a nuclear weapon."

"They were enriching additional uranium, but they were not weaponizing that yet, and that [decision] was left with the supreme leader," he told reporters. "If there has been a change in that intelligence, I need to know, and I want to make sure that if it is changed, it's based upon fact and not political influence."

"Things change, especially with war"
Mr. Trump told reporters on Wednesday he had not made a final decision on whether to strike Iran.

"I like to make the final decision one second before it's due, because things change, especially with war," he said.

"I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do," he said earlier in the day, adding that he'd like Iran to negotiate on a deal to end its nuclear program.

Iran — which has long insisted the program exists solely for peaceful purposes — said Wednesday it "does NOT negotiate under duress," and said it would "respond to any threat with a counter-threat."

Iran has prepared missiles and equipment for strikes on U.S. bases in the Middle East if the U.S. joins the Israeli campaign, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official and a Pentagon official briefed on the matter.

Israel began striking Iran last Friday morning. The Trump administration has said publicly it is not participating in the offensive strikes, though CBS News previously reported the U.S. has helped Israel intercept Iran's retaliatory missile strikes.

In recent days, Mr. Trump has not ruled out the idea of joining Israel's campaign, saying on Truth Social his "patience is wearing thin."

The president said Tuesday the U.S. knows the whereabouts of Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. "He is an easy target, but is safe there — We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now," Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social. On Sunday, CBS News reported Mr. Trump had opposed an Israeli plan to kill Khamenei.

 

What did Frodo ever do to anyone?

 

Seems like Iran has been on the 2-yard line of nuclear weapons for a long time...

 

One thing that I can't get past is, our own intelligence along with Tulsi G said that Iran was not close to building a bomb, hell she just said that a few months ago, then Israel makes a preemptive strike as if there days away from doing it. I would not be shocked if they were, but that's what our own folks said. Are we incompetent or were we lying or both? So now there both lobbing bombs, destroying their cities and killing people, IMO this is on Israel and I don't trust BiBi............what happens if we find out in a few weeks there is no bomb? Iran does some shitty things for sure but in this case I think Israel is wrong



America’s spies say Iran wasn’t building a nuclear weapon. Trump dismisses that assessment
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...uclear-weapon-trump-dismisses-that-assessment

 

Given our controlling interests in the middle east going back to 2001, It is entirely plausible the nuke is made up to destabilize the regime and justify the collapse. We've done it before.

That said, Iran would be stupid not to want a nuke. Equally plausible.

But none of it matters. This isn't about the nuke. And never will be. This is about collapse and control.