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Rockets going for Kevin Durant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Jun 25, 2024.

  1. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    He played 75 games two years ago and 62 last year.
     
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    If by over 35 you mean by days, Lebron won a ring in 2020 at 35.5

    If by over 35 you mean 36+, Chris Paul turned 36 the month before the 2021 finals, Tim Duncan and Manu were 37 & 36 in their 2014 championship

    In more recent years, Curry was 34 in 2022 championship, Butler 33 in 2023 finals appearance


    In general leading stars in finals being 34 and over is pretty rare in modern NBA
     
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    The Heat/Butler relationship started to fray a couple of years ago and by last summer, there was no way to repair it. This is why they slammed the door on extending him.
     
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    He played 62 games last year with a better roster and couldn't sniff the playoffs. Why you think the heat will make noise?
     
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    I feel like the Heat are the last (team) ditch effort from the Suns to get the Rockets to up their offer.
     
  6. Houston77

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    I think a Heat roster with Durant (assuming they keep Herro, Bam, and Ware) is much better than the Suns’ roster last season.
     
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    For reference, KD will be 37.7 the next time the playoffs come around.
     
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    Perhaps even more important, they have a coach the players actually respect and an established, functional culture.

    Suns started 8-1 last year, then KD missed 7-8 games and they immediately crumbled to pieces.
     
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    On the plus side, Durant will make a great expiring contract in 2-3 years....
     
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    Teams are so conscious how they use the cap that you hardly have that many bad contracts now a days anymore. I guess it would be useful to be able to make a deal.
     
  11. DrNuegebauer

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    The Bane trade sets the market for Jalen Green, not KD.
    Young SG who can score (and not in the playoffs - Bane also was awful).

    4 FRP + a swap is the value on Green = a GREAT DEAL for the Suns. They can find a landing place for him and we give them Green and matching salary (Jock) for Durant + a future first.

    Seems only fair they give us a first, that would mean in effective value terms they gained 3 firsts and a swap in the deal.


    #amirite
     
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    Totally disagree, they couldn't make the playoffs in the weak eastern conference. They had a losing record playing a majority of games against bad teams. And most likely herro would have to be traded cuz what else is Miami offering?
     
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    Gambo guy: We all knew he wanted to go to San Antonio or Houston. Shams is adding Miami. Miami is the least likely option available. Things can change but don’t believe they like the package. I’m gonna continue to say Miami is unlikely. There are better offers out there. My understanding is Miami is unlikely, package probably can’t get it done. Could they change it? Absolutely. There are other teams, plural, ahead of Miami.

    Miami just throwing in Andrew Wiggins ($28M), Wiggins is a negative to me, not a positive. Doesn’t compete at a high level. He doesn’t play hard. It goes against everything they’re trying to build. He’s soft. I would not think that’s a guy they want. The other player is Ware. Like Wiggins, he’s soft. Still a young prospect. I don’t think that’s a guy that helps you win basketball games. Names with Miami are not of interest to the Suns. I think they’ll have a hard time putting together a package.

    They don’t want to tank, they don’t want to win 21 games. You don’t want to sour Booker. They want to be competitive. Every package will have a combo of draft picks, young players and a veteran to make the money work.

    I don’t think Miami has the ammunition to get a deal done.

    I have to preface this by saying offers change. Today, they wouldn’t be able to get a deal done. I’m not ruling them out. Right now, they are unlikely based on the current offer. Right now, it’s unlikely they get him.

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    I was always led to believe it would be this week. I'll stick with this week.
     
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    The Suns have put themselves in quite the bind. They don't want to lose, yet they want to get their picks back with only Durant. It's just not happening. They either trade Booker away or they will have to be content with whatever Durant gets them back. A package from the Rockets with the right teams involved could net them some positive assets that allows them to stay competitive for a play-in spot. Their idiotic move of trading for Beal is really what screwed over that franchise. They need to unload him for a positive asset, but don't have any assets remaining besides Booker. Plus if Beal just wants to live in Arizona the next 2 years and collect his cash, then they really really don't have any leverage.

    I would hate to be their GM.
     
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    Suns are in literal hell. None of their draft picks and NTC Beal with a PO for $57 million in 2027. They will not be able to compete with what they receive from KD trade.

    They refuse to rebuild and they will stay mediocre with a disgruntled aging Booker.
     
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    I’ll take Wiggins if that means KD goes to Heat and we unload Brooks.
     
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    My belief, at the right price, Rockets trade for KD. A 2 yr $120m extension means for the next 3 seasons the next Rockets star is growing and we are paying our youth contracts. So that means the assets going out are players who aren’t on the road map.

    JG maybe, Brooks, Landale, Holiday, Cam (maybe, depends on draft capital)

    Picks: keep this years #10 and send 27 back to them. This year either draft or trade back with additional pick(s) for next year.
    All this allows for the Rockets to keep a steady flow of youth, rookie/1st extension contracts and keeping the window going.
     
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    I am not with you on this, at all. Green? Beal? PG13? Jrue? Lauri? Scores more.
     
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    Interesting take.
     

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