We need to trade Sengun while his value is at its highest

Lol you watched us this season and thought Amen wants to play with Herro? Do you not remember Amen chucking him aside like a rag doll.

And while I agree Amen will be our best player. He has had no issues playing with Sengun. In fact the two of them make up our best lineups so why would we need to trade Sengun for Amen? The only player that everyone seems to think has an issue playing with Sengun is Jalen. Maybe that's cuz Jalen just isn't that good.

 

We disagree. That’s ok. If Amen gets to run the offense most of the time, by mid-year I think you will change your mind, but who knows maybe Sengun will come back and be a 35% 3 pt shooter on 5-6 attempts a game and start to hit his bunnies again. That would be a more interesting argument and I would love for it to happen. All aspects of Sengun’s shooting regressed this past season. I really hope he corrects it all.

 

That’s your subjectivity. I just told you what numbers don’t measure either you believe that or you don’t but it doesn’t excuse the fact that numbers don’t and can’t quantify everything. I never said anything about slow or jumping.

This is why coaches and scouts get paid for what they do. Sengun does not rotate well and often misses assignments. Numbers do not show this. He also didn’t get more steals. The other numbers are negligible. And again much of individual numbers hide the fact of how good teams play defensively. And so a closer evaluation is needed besides numbers. And my evaluation is Bam is better defensively than Sengun. You can disagree you are free to do so.

 

Why is our defense significantly better when Alpi plays versus when he goes to the bench? If he is bad at all the things you mention. Something just doesn't add up.

 

Who says it is better when he is on court? Metrics and shmetrics. Remember they don’t tell the whole story. We were actually not eliminated in the first round. The stupid who scored more points metric said so. But in reality we won the game.

 

There’s literally no point in going back and forth with that poster. He is a Jalen only fan, who will deny every fact and statistic you show him just to feel like he’s “correct”.
Waste of time.

 

perhaps

I haven’t seen those numbers but if true it could be due a synergy of factors not just one player. Who else is on that lineup? What combinations of players? How long did they play together? Many of these metrics rely on team numbers. Im sure Udoka or even Phil Jackson didn’t simply just look at metrics to decide Lineups and matchups or plays to run.

 

Did I insult you? There’s literally no point in your response mentioning me. If you have nothing to offer to this discussion then simply don’t post anything instead of accusations and false information against me. I said nothing about Green yet he seems to be on your mind again. How many times do we have to go thru this?

 

Ironic

 

What metric are you speaking of? What metric shows us winning and losing? Do you understand what a metric is and what it shows? Certainly not in the context you are speaking of. And no matter what you say metrics do not tell the whole story. The fan said Sengun’s 1 rebound per game and a less than 1 more block a game qualifies him as a better defender. This is simply does not prove Sengun is a better defender and not true. If you don’t understand this then there’s nothing more to talk about

 

not the definition of irony. Wrong context. I said nothing about you yet as usual you attack me now you play the victim. I said nothing but offer my thoughts on Sengun. This is getting old.

 

Sure. That’s what you did

 

I haven't followed this thread, but I will say that Alpi's value is not yet at its highest.

 

This is about your unwarranted and unnecessary response. I have nothing to do with how you take offense and get triggered to a mere viewpoint or comment on your precious player that you have a strong emotional tie to. That’s on you to resolve

 

Sure buddy.
Keep up your delusion

 

Lol you arguing with me over an assessment on a player you strangely have a deep emotional investment in is delusional.

 

Yep, that’s it.
Whatever you need to tell yourself. The delusion is something else

 

This is about you. Please don’t deflect. If you had no emotional tie to this player then why did my assessment of him trigger you. Assessment. Not disrespect. Not hate. Again something you have to deal with and come to terms with. Nothing to do with me

 

A huge green fan uses decision making and missing assignments as an argument to explain why Sengun's defense might be worse than the numbers suggest. Bro, Sengun is one of the best centers in terms of decision making, positioning and off ball movement.

Saying that numbers (stats) whose sole purpose is to summarize information, do not show the whole story is not very original or smart. Of course they won't show the whole story. But they prove evidence. And if you want to disprove what they suggest you are the one who should find explanations, not the posters who show those stats. And you miserably failed at that by suggesting that his lack of decision making and missing assignments. You do that because you don't have anything of substance. Your reasoning goes 'I believe Sengun is a bad defender so numbers must be wrong. Do I have an argument for that? No. Oh whatever, numbers don't tell the whole story, I am right'

 

nope try again. That label you put on me stems from your ignorance. I simply had a discussion with another fan yet another Sengun fan is triggered. Yes I know you’re a Sengun only fan because it’s in your username. Please come up
with a better discussing topic