We need to trade Sengun while his value is at its highest

Turner and Giannis would be great

 

This makes no sense cuz in your fantasy land if we could somehow get Giannis and Turner why couldn't we get Booker and Turner to pair with Sengun?
Why are we comparing scenarios where in one we get 2 players and in the other we only get one when Giannis booker make about the same. Jalen and Sengun make about the same.


For age and spacing Amen Booker Sengun Turner makes a lot more sense than Amen Jalen Giannis Turner.

 

It’s just a poll question relax.

But for starters Sengun isn’t a 4. Many 4’s in the league are smaller and quicker than Sengun. Sengun only plays 4 in our 2-3 zone look. And again this does not solve our congestion problem if you run the ball thru Sengun. This means more of the same 2-3, 1-3-1 zones and stacking the paint against us. That’s the issue is Sengun gets so many touches and opportunities since he is a main scorer and facilitator for this offense that is designed around him.

 

Sengun played better as four this year than he did as a C. I don't see why he can't play 4. They stacked the paint against sengun last year cuz we had spacing issues with Adams and Amen, getting Booker and Turner helps with some spacing for sengun as well. Why wouldn't the rockets just continue with their zone that works. Why do we have to match up man? Even if we did Sengun is much quicker than you give him credit for. Plenty of times he was left on an island against curry in first round and came up with stops.

How does Giannis help us solve any spacing issues. He literally can't shoot outside the paint.

 

Sengun was the most consistent player and was a major factor as to why the Rockets even made it to the second seed in the West. He even contributed significantly to the defense which was the team's calling card throughout the season. In the playoffs, he was also the most consistent player and the Rockets would not have taken the Dubs to a 7th game without him. And now, some folks are OK with trading him. It was only the first playoff appearance for most of the team, and yet there are already conclusions about Sengun and other players' future as to how they will end up as players. These folks might be right in the end, but it is just amazing.

 

I don’t think getting Turner is possible, but if you do trade Sengun in a package for Giannis you need to make sure you have enough left over to get a suitable replacement that can shoot from outside and ideally another shooter to either replace Jalen or play off the bench. AZ

Ok with trading him under the right scenario is correct and not "amazing". Giannis is a top 5 player in the league. So Sengun, filler, and 3 picks is a reasonable trade. You can disagree with it, but it's not that farfetched. It is much more reasonable than people wanting to trade Jalen for a bag of peanuts or Cam Johnson.

 

Well, I disagree. Giannis had better shooters in Milwaukee but they didn't go very far. Even with Dame, an elite shooter, they didn't go very far with Giannis. The Rockets do not even have that shooter so it will just be riding on a treadmill for the team with him who will take most of the shots as he has done throughout his career. The league has figured out how to play him so he has reached his ceiling. They did win a championship, but that ship has sailed with him.

 

You might be off with your use of literal.
78% from 0-3'
44% from 3-10
48% from 10-16
44% from 16-3pt

From 16-3pt he has a better % than SGA.
The shooting numbers are better than Alpy across the board, and Giannis is a better passer and doesn't always require the ball in the post to start. Or, if he gets it at the 3 point line, is more of a creative threat, or able to create a downhill attack through superior speed and agility.
There is a spacing increase on those factors alone.


The biggest concern in getting Giannis would be defensively, and who plays the 5? We lose some of the rim protection from the bulk of an Alpi - and need a 5 who can play out. The obvious answer is start Jabari, which is fine, but we are more likely to get pushed around down low defensively.

 

Amazing he shoots 44% on the worst shot in basketball. A 30% three point shooter is better than that.... if they both took the same amount of shots the 30% shooter would have more points and this is why it doesn't matter if he can make that shot. It's terrible shot. And unless he shoots like Chris Paul he shouldn't shoot it.
And he barely took any of those shots. Such low volume.

No defense is gonna leave the paint and worry about Giannis shooting that shot. It absolutely doesn't help with our spacing. They would let him shoot it all day long.

There is no world where Giannis is a better passer than Sengun...

 

They won in 21
Middleton out in 22 playoffs
Giannis out in 23
Giannis out in 24

The dumb Lillard trade doomed them anyway. But missing their big guns was the issue, not that the league figured out Giannis

 

*in your opinion

Fact shows otherwise.

 

What facts? What is my opinion? Giannis is a better player than Sengun 100%. But passing and shooting are not the reasons he's better. The reason I don't want Giannis is cuz he makes 50 million and he's a flawed player and most likely a rental. It makes no sense to trade for him.

 

Well, you added another reason to not trade for Giannis, his injuries. But with Dame and Lopez on their lineup, they were not even among the top teams in the East. The league has figured him out and he will never lead a team to the top again. I said it and let me eat crow if I turn out to be wrong.

 

Rockets shoudl get rid of one of their 2 non-shooters they want to "build around" in Thompson and Sengun,

Thompson's defensive value indicates it should probably be Sengun,

-> Rockets should get rid of Sengun.

 

Does the highlighted part not concern you? He is about to be 31 and is not getting any younger.

 

The argument was about spacing, and that Giannis cramps it because he can't score outside the paint. Objectively, he is better than Aply, so improves spacing not worsens it

 

I really don't enjoy watching Giannis play (travel, pushoff, pushoff, dunk). He is one of those guys who gets a lot of leniency from the officials.

But I can also see how he would make an immense difference here (under the right trade conditions)

 

About the only player I would entertain trading Sengun for would be JJJr from Memphis. Fits our identity, timeline, and I believe he still has some upside with his 3pt shooting.

 

If Sengun is not FOCUSING on a 3pt shot, then he needs to be traded.

DD

 

Marginally better at shooting from one area doesn't make our spacing better. Teams will absolutely leave him wide open. That's the shot we want Giannis to take. It absolutely doesn't help our spacing. Bucks literally surrounded him with 4 shooters because they knew he couldn't shoot.


when we played bucks this year we literally gave him that shot. He's not beating you with that shot.