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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. JuanValdez

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    This dude is doing Palestine no favors. Not that the Free Palestine movement has made any forward progress at all anyway, but acts of terrorism just push away all reasonable voices that could advocate for a policy change. Without any change in the US, we will continue or enhance the cooperation we give Israel's far-right government to execute on the genocide, along with a side-helping of suppression of free speech in the US. This guy is an actual antisemite who blames American Jews for the actions of the government of Israel only because of their racial and religious association. He deserves everything he's got coming to him.

    Israel didn't say they would stop the genocide in return for the hostages.

    At Least 27 Killed After Israeli Soldiers Open Fire Near Gaza Aid Site - The New York Times
     
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    your link has already been shown to be a thing that never happened.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    How do you prove a thing didn't happen?

    To note, the article I posted is about a second shooting that killed a reported 27 after an earlier shooting that supposedly killed 23. Are they both proven to not have happened?

    From the NYT article, here are the evidences that something happened in this most recent event:

    * IDF says they opened fire near Palestinians heading toward the food aid, and that they are 'looking into' reports of casualties.
    * Red Cross says they received the bodies of 19 people, plus 8 wounded who died in their care.
    * Jamal Azzam, a Red Cross nurse, told NYT he had treated Gazans with gunfire wounds.
    * Dr. Ahmad al-Farra at Nasser Hospital told NYT that many of the victims were children with gunshot wounds to the head or chest.
    * Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which runs the aid sites, says they are aware of reports of shootings outside of the aid sites.
    * NYT included a photo from Agence France-Presse of an unnamed Palestinian man injured in Rafah and another of a dead man. Also included a photo from Reuters of a child in hospital for his injuries.

    Unless you want to say NYT is straight-up lying, it seems apparent that something happened. Maybe you can pretend it was Hamas who shot those people. Or maybe that the IDF soldiers were in peril and had to defend themselves. Things no one is claiming so far. But to say it was just made up and never happened is not a serious take.
     
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    I want to say the NYT is straight-up lying.
     
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  5. JuanValdez

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    That leaves us no basis for any useful conversation because there is no way to establish any fact. Heck, what you posted was just a social media meme from a 23 year old baby pundit who falsely equivocates a retraction of one piece of evidence (from the earlier event) with a total fabrication and cover-up. Your source is garbage. If you don't like BBC and NYT, there are also reports from The Times of Israel, The Guardian, and others. I know you're just trolling, but thank you for giving me the opportunity to post on this more and increase the public awareness of the brutality of IDF's occupation of Gaza.
     
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    the BBC and NYT are no more reliable, in fact less so, than a 23 y/o baby pundit.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Your ability to validate sources of information has been clarified or perhaps validated.
     
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    Well this is Greta's spring break, she would love sipping margaritas with MS13 gang members...
     
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    @Salvy @basso @Scarface281

    i hope this woke bittch can swim
    Sailing to Gaza probably as dumb as paragliding to ukraine
     
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    Why isn’t trying together through Egypt? Oh she can’t , lol , they won’t let people into Gaza
     
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    Like I said, zionists have to resort to using AI images and videos from random hasbara youtubers. They can't cope with the reality that the entire world is fully aware of the holocaust being carried out by the genocidal state and how the US unconditionally backs it. America and it's rabid attack dog are the biggest disruptors of peace in that region.


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  18. StupidMoniker

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    Nigeria has to deal with Boko Haram. India has to deal with Pakistan. It is very clear who has to deal with Islamic terrorists and who doesn't.

    And yes, the US is not going to let Hamas off the hook by forcing a ceasefire.
     
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    American girls playing sports have to deal with dudes
    @Salvy
    @HP3
    @jo mama
     
  20. basso

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    Procol Harum > Boko Haram

     

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