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Random Trade Thread 2024-25

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. RHU525

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    Pretty sure Minnesota says no to us. And you worried that we could actually pull it off. One day you will llearn that Jalen just isn't they good.
     
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    Anyone think Malik Monk is available for #10 and salary filler (Jock, Holiday & Williams). It works on fanspo financially but is that enough for Monk? SAC could be desperate to get a pick in the draft after losing theirs to ATL.

    FVV/Reed
    Green/Monk
    Brooks/Tari
    Amen/Bari
    Sengun/Adams
     
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    I like the idea, but you'd need more to get an established player like Monk.
     
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    Darius Garland for Brooks, JSJ, and Cam.

    Draft capital as needed to make deal fair.
     
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    really? i think that's overpaying for Monk. he's a likely 6th man on an at best play in team. I wouldn't give up the 10th pick for Monk. I would love to him though, having 0 bench scoring hurts us a lot.
     
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    I know the scoring was less than ideal but it was the free throws that buried the team in the playoffs. If the Rockets had shot just league average they would have won that series.
     
  7. Aruba77

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    I like Monk and he’s on an amazing contract, but I would think #10 would be enough. I see him as more of a 6th man type on a championship team. I think we should set our sights a little higher.
     
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    They wouldn’t do it because they already have Ant, not because Naz is better than Jalen lmao
     
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    With 7 young guys who are now going to be in their 2nd to 5th seasons I think the consideration of any new player coming in from a trade or any new FA signing needs to correlate with the reduction of one of those 7.

    As has been mentioned in another thread, playoff rotations are very very tight. It's at the point now that with as many young guys fighting for time, Stone and Co are going to have to make a choice this off-season for who is truly benefitting the future of the team and who just isn't cutting it, and in my view, outside of Amen and Alperen, the rest have several warts where upgrades would clearly take the team to the next level.

    Jalen - Outside of his athleticism, the average guard would be an upgrade in efficient scoring. His weaknesses became the end of the Rockets playoff run. He's my #1 player to upgrade and has been since year 1.
    Jabari - He gets like a 6.5 score across the board except in ball handling where he gets like a 3. Lots of players would be an upgrade here, Ex: Naz Reid
    Tari - Wouldn't normally put him here as a piece to move but his decision making in the playoffs seemed rather suspect and his offense more limited than before. Not chomping at the bit to replace him but can see where a more highly intelligent and less emotionally erratic player would be an upgrade here.
    Cam - What can be said that hasn't already been said. The guy just seems to have a dark cloud over him and he can't seem to shake it. Lacks maturity and poise and most of all patience. Really just acts like a petulant child and I don't think any team has room on their roster for someone like that long-term. So many players would be an upgrade off the bench it's not hard to find.
    Reed - The number one concern I have about him is his ability to keep up on the defensive end. I think his offensive game will turn the corner but these lightning quick guards and mostly taller players exploit the hell out of him when it comes to man to man coverage. It's like playing 5 on 4 defensively. Outside of occasional steals and a block I've seen him get blown by more than I think should be permitted. I think his offensive game will be tough to match in a few years but his size and speed can definitely be upgraded.
    #10 pick - Is there really anyone on the table in that draft slot that y'all think is BETTER than any of the current prospects listed above. I don't see it right now.
     
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    Malik Monk plays basically is the same role that Jalen Green plays. Not sure which is currently better, but I would just stick with Green.
     
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    Rockets Out: Jalen Green, #10 Overall, Jaesean Tate

    Wizards Out: Jordan Poole, #6 Overall, Malcolm Brogdon

    Basically fixes our biggest problem which is having a shooting guard that fits around our franchise players. Cooper, Dylan, Ace, VJ are all going Top 4. Meaning one of Kon and Johnson will be available at 6. Jordan Poole is a meme but fits the Rockets more than Jalen does (who is also a meme).
     
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    I mean every measurable advanced stat says he is better than Jalen. I think he's a better player, would been great to have his shooting on our roster,
     
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    agree #1 of who needs to be upgraded

    been 4 years had all the starts, chances, minutes, shots, green light from day 1
    4 regular seasons for a #2 pick has been mediocre
    people were saying wait till the playoffs. now they be like wait until we have a favorable matchup LOL
    runs straight fast, jumps high, front runner
     
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    I think Jalen is worth more than that, but after shopping around and they can’t do better, it’s not a horrible trade. It is really according if you think the #6 pick will outperform Jalen in a couple of years. Poole and Malcolm are bandaids and don’tt address the real problem, which is FVV starting. I think moving FVV, Cam and #10 might net us Durant. Then you give Jalen a chance to prove it with a better PG and Durant to take off the scoring pressure.

    Amen, Jalen, Durant, Jabari, Sengun. Bench of Reed, Dillon, Tari, Adams. If Jalen isn’t playing better or Amen is struggling as a PG, then you pull the trigger on a trade or get rid of Ime.
     
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    I agree. Though I would probably take this as chance to trade Tari and keep Cam His IQ, injury history, and extension coming up makes this a good time to package him for a KD

    I would start really developing Cam and be ready to trade Jalen if needed. If Amen, or Reed, is looking shaky as PG, and Cam is looking good off the bench, then you can trade Jalen for possibly pg upgrade
     
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    Yea. I’m alright with that, and it might take Tari instead of Cam to make the deal. I just love Tari off the bench and I’m not sure Ime can stomach another year of Cam’s immaturity.
     
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    Monk struggled this year. Maybe we can buy low and keep 10
     
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    Watch games instead of advanced metrics. Naz is essentially Jabari 2.0. Plays below the rim, can’t put the ball on the floor, not a great rebounder, bad footwork, not a good passer, decent shooter and good defense.
     
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    I believe the Wiz would say yes to this. But i think we are giving up too much. I don’t want two more yrs of Jordan Poole at $35mil per. That’s a negative asset. Maybe not as negative as I thought because he did shoot well on high volume last yr, but he also turns the ball over 3 times a game. I still think Jalen is a positive asset because of the upside and shortend length of contract, or at least I want to believe that. I’ve lost faith in Brogdon’s ability to stay on the floor and isn’t he a free agent?

    i think to make the trade more fair the Wiz would need to throw in #18. Maybe we throw them a couple 2nd rounders.

    #6, #18, Poole for #10, Jalen, two 2nd rounders?
     
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    I watched every game this season. Jalen is the most frustrating player I've ever had to root for. We can list all the things Jalen sucks at too. This list is long.

    I am just a lot lower on Jalen than you. There are probably 200 players in the league I'd trade him for. And naz Reid just happens to one.
     

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