Republicans raise the debt ceiling by 4 trillion while kicking millions off insurance

Lets see, Blue collar workers are supposed to payoff loans for students that took out a loan knowing the terms of said loan, but after going to college and accruing this debt are still uneducated and poor? SMH

 

They need to stop playing nice and start calling them out for what they are, evil demons that are anti Jesus. Use strong language that befits their actions. It's long past time for decorum. These people are evil and are going to hell when they perish from this Earth.

 

agreed 100%…these are devils, and they need to be treated as such

 

MSM is complicit…I love that CNN is bleeding viewers and basically becoming irrelevant

 

People will die when they cannot pay their medical bills, that is the point. And you cant just ER you're way out of conditions that they have. Not to mention you will overburden the ERs already and collapse their infrastructure with that many people going.

MORALLY BANKRUPT, your lord is not Christ, its Trump.

 

This is actual non sense holy ****.

 

Community college should be free for all that qualify. This is a BLATANT attempt to discourage people from going to college. Need workers with low paying jobs to maximize profits.

 

He's sniffing around something important but, like a lot of conservatives, he's misdirecting his class anger at the wrong class.

The culture and economics of college in the US are completely broken. It should not cost as much as it does to get a degree, full stop. The interest on the loans is predatory and prevents graduates from meaningfully contributing to the economy in an era where wages are not growing and AI-related layoffs are coming. Millennials have gotten a lot of grief about not having kids, buying homes, etc. when, for many of them, they haven't been able to meaningfully save money amidst loans, the Great Recession, and the pandemic.

There's a lot of scorn toward 18-year-olds who agree to take out loans and struggle to pay them back. It's pretty callous, especially for generations of kids who were taught that going to college was the only measure of success. Here's a story: my mom's friend has two sons in their 30s. It was clear in high school that neither one of them was college material (poor grades, didn't care about school). But, they were told they had to go by their parents and their teachers. All of their peers were going, too. But, each one of them spent 6-8 years struggling to obtain general studies degrees from UH. When they finally graduated they had tons of debt and were unemployable because they were so much older than other entry-level new grads.

That is an individual bad decision that raining threes is mocking. I don't disagree with him that it was bad, but we shouldn't look on at others' struggles with glee or an "I told you so" attitude. Instead we should ask "Why is it that the trades are not promoted more in high school?" and "Why can't we pay for degrees, without crushing interest, in fields that the country needs to be competitive?" I don't think we should finance undergrad gender studies degrees (to get that boogeyman out of the way), but I do think that we should pay for engineering, business, etc. degrees. I think a lot of our misdirection is cultural - people who worked hard labor jobs didn't want their kids to struggle like they did; No Child Left Behind tied school funding to test scores and test scores lead to college; and there's no shortage of colleges who want some cash from eager students.

In short, college is too expensive and isn't for everyone. And if college graduates can't afford to pay back their loans due to macro-economic and political factors, they won't have the money to hire a vaunted blue collar worker to repair their homes.

 

The issue is the subsidization is what drives the price increases. When student loans were just like other bank loans, college was very affordable. People could work a job and pay for college. When one of my older friends went to law school, his tuition was less than a month's rent at his apartment. When the government came in and started guaranteeing loans and making it so banks had no incentive to make sure people could pay them back, it took the lid off of what banks were willing to lend. Why not lend hundreds of thousands of dollars to anyone with a face when there is no risk of loss? When you are a school administrator, why not charge $60k or more per year knowing that people can get unlimited money to pay it? There is no incentive to keep costs down. Like most government programs, they didn't understand the causes of the issues and they made things worse trying to fix them.

I agree with you that the primary fault doesn't lie with the individual students. Building a system that depends on a bunch of 18-year-olds making smart, rational decisions is never a good idea.

 

Okay this I understand. @raining threes Apologies, I did not look at it from this perspective.

 

Has this been addressed? How many healthcare jobs will be lost due to the cuts? I haven't been able to find info on this.

 

This is the primary issue
America . .. republicans in particular
have the best propganda machine in the world . . .or that any american will see

I cannot get a straight answer to this question

IF YOU ARE CUTTING THE BUDGET SO MUCH
WHY DO YOU NEED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING??

Rocket River

 

They just love to complain
and hate to do something about it

They hate that they have to call India for tech support
but hate the idea of paying Americans to learn to do the job

Elon and nem told them . . . yea thanks for getting rid of the local expensive brown folx from jobs
so we can import people for the job cheaper

Complain about everything and don't want to invest in anything that ain't 3 feet from them

Rocket River

 

While I agree with this, I'm from the school of thought that if you take out a loan, you payback the loan. This really isn't a hard concept.

 

Why should community college be free? Being free devalues the community college degree. Now if you want to say college costs too much I will agree with you. That's because the federal govt got involved in college loans.

Does anybody work their way through college and not have loans after they graduate these days?

 

Please expound upon your post.

My post was factual.

Most college graduates these days would be much better off learning a trade and not having college debt.

 

The ER stuff was going on long before Trump. The insurance and lack of quality care happened after Obamacare passed.