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Rockets going for Kevin Durant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Jun 25, 2024.

  1. Plowman

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    Besides age, injury risk, and extension, Durant has said he's gone and submitted a short list.
    It's already clear PHX isn't getting jack.
    Combine all that with risk of injury and roster planning...
    This will be resolved shortly.
     
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  2. Aruba77

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    do we even know if the Suns are focused on acquiring draft capital? They’re supposed to be selling Booker on a plan to retool, not rebuild. I suspect someone like FVV and/or Dillon would be of interest since they are trying to be competitive. Maybe someone younger. I would hope that a couple of good players and the #10 pick (especially if they really like someone in this draft) could get a deal done.
     
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  3. Convictedstupid

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    I think I’m out on trading a lotto pick for KD. I think he puts us closer to contention but not quite there. Also think we may not have a true 1A so need to take as many whacks at getting one in the lotto as we can.
     
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    Looking at the candidates at the #10 pick it is highly unlikely we get a 1a with that pick. If #10 and FVV, Tari or Cam get you KD and he agrees to one more year extension then you do it. FVV is addition by subtraction and KD is your go to guy in the clutch. We would still have Jalen or Sengun and picks to acquire Giannis and more. After the Giannis transaction we will have the full MLE 14.1m to pursue more depth. Anything more than what I described for KD should be a no.
    Please let it be Jalen for Giannis. Then you have:

    Amen
    Giannis
    Durant
    Jabari
    Sengun

    If that is not enough shooting you trade Sengun, Dillon, Landale for Sabonis, Monk, 2026 sac frp, 2028 sac frp
     
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  5. Convictedstupid

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    Agreed the chances of a 1A guy being at 10 is very low, but not impossible.

    Rockets would be better with KD than currently but would still need injury luck to make it to win the championship. Would you rather bet on a team with KD having better injury luck than an opposing team without KD?

    Just don’t think giving up a lotto pick is worth that risk for 1-2 years of possible ‘contention’.
     
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    It’s a pretty easy calculation for the front office to make. Is 2 years of a superstar (not necessarily the only move we make) worth more than a #10 pick in a decent draft. Also giving that the selected pick almost assuredly will spend at least one season on the bench. I think the Rockets would prefer Durant, but I could be wrong. Plus you have the added bonus of breaking up the FVV/IME Cabal.
     
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  7. roslolian

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    yeah thats why Rox wanna bring him back.
     
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    Kinda think you’re burying the lede a bit by saying ‘2 years of a superstar’ but we’ll see what happens.
     
  9. roslolian

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    If you dont win a ring in 2 yrs (not a guarantee) you prob just set yourself back and closed contention losing all those assets for nothing. In 2 yrs Giannis might also be starting to get washed, 32 is the age Dwight started having all those injuries.
     
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    Don't want Giannis because he is fools gold but Durant can be had cheaply.
     
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    Giannis' won't age like Durant's game but both would be washed pretty soon.

     
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    When he went down, we immediately played our worst basketball of the season and went on our longest losing streak.

    He is legitimately the only NBA-caliber PG on the roster.
     
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    Thank you. I have zero clue why people hate FVV so much. We sucked without him on the floor. Played like a lottery team when he missed those games.
     
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    Yet, Jalen Green played all those games during the losing streak and we still lost...smh, time to ship him out with his black fingernail polish!
     
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    Casuals who can’t judge a player beyond their shooting percentages.
     
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    He is paid star player money, he is soon 32 year old, he can only get worse.

    Mike Conley is paid 9-10 million......

     
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    How much can Suns really take back for KD?

    I tried resigning FVV at 20mill per + Brooks + #10 and even that fails on the trade machine.

    You think they would take FVV + Tari + #10 + PHX 2027 and call that a "retool"? Doesn't seem like they can take much of a haul back
     
  19. Joe Joe

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    The money did not stop the Rockets from signing someone better, and the contract was structured to be tradeable. It is not FVV's fault that he was too important for the team to trade, and Stone couldn't find a good trade for his contract. The Rockets and FVV extended his team option date to give Stone a little more time. At the time of FVV's signing, I did not expect the offense to lean so heavily on him, and I did not expect he would be a Rocket past 2.5 years. The way the Rockets played FVV from mid-December through the playoffs is more what I expected when he got here such that by the 2025 trade deadline, he wouldn't be needed.

    People act like he was a bad player, and that playing him actually made it harder for the Rockets to win. His age and ability going forward should affect his extension, but do not affect how well he played for the Rockets. I'm hopeful Reed or Amen take his starting PG job sometime in the next two years.

    People don't hate FVV because FVV probably won't be a key member of the 27-28 Rockets. People hate FVV because they can't see the value he provided, and/or that he doesn't fit their narrative whether it be they want to go full Silas (no veterans just young guys that don't have someone to organize them) or something else. The prospect of FVV being a Rocket next year is causing the FVV haters to have a temper tantrum as they hated FVV before they thought he would be a Rocket at age 32 and would be even worse than their current perception.

    I don't think the Rockets should have tried to offer Brooks Lopez something more and moved on from FVV. I don't think it would have been wise offering Harden an actual max under the table likely without a team option and likely longer such that the Rockets don't have the flexibility they currently have.
     
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  20. Joe Joe

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    For KD, the Suns should be excited if Stone actually offered that.
     
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