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[Pain] HUGE, self-inflicted Recession incoming due to Trump/Musk

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Feb 18, 2025.

  1. Newlin

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    No one will be unhappy with that. The market was booming before Trump started meddling. What people really want is stability, something that will never happen with Trump. Let’s see if Trump accomplishes all his stated goals. Create more manufacturing jobs, lowering prices, reduce the trade deficit, raise money through tariffs, stop the flow of fentanyl. If he can do those things, then he is a real miracle worker. Don’t hold your breath.
     
  2. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    I've heard the entire time that the China tariffs were meant to decouple the US from China. Now Trump's saying they don't want to decouple.

    And what again is paying for the tax cuts now??
    Really tired of anyone trying to message that Trump has any idea what he's doing.
     
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  3. El_Conquistador

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    Leveling the playing field for TRADE with China.

    Lowering prescription DRUG PRICES for Americans.

    INFLATION dropping to make gas, food, and energy cheaper for Americans.

    Jobs and investment being made in AMERICA, not Southeast Asia.


    Trump is delivering results that the Democrats have demonstrated they are incapable (or unwilling) to deliver. Trump is the greatest President for the working class in history. America's black community in particular stands to benefit greatly from these results. That's a great thing.


    GOOD DAY
     
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    Inflation fueled... unsustainable. You see, when the stock market is denominated in dollars, and then you print 60% more dollars, then it will take more dollars to buy the same stocks. Very simple.

    Trump is powering gains without causing massive inflation -- that's real work. And it's sustainable this time. And it doesn't cripple the working class. An economy that lifts ALL BOATS.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  6. adoo

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    yes, since Trump 2 sarted, caused mostly by the tariffs
    egg prices have come down, but still higher when Biden was in office




    the willful ignorance of Traitor Geroge in full display
    • calling the temporary truce with China, with no details, as a trade deal :oops::oops::oops:
    • making a BIG DEAL out of a bear market rally, the market is still more than 10% below the level when Biden left office
     
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    Stock market is back to where it was before all of the tariff panic the Dems were selling us.

    Drug prices are being cut.
     
  8. adoo

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    stop lying, it is still more than 10 % below the all-time which was established in 2024, under Biden' watch
     
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    Man, Trump had a great weekend. I wonder if the libs are happy?
     
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    Not to take any sides in this argument on eggs, but I do believe the avian flu had a major part to play in all of this.
    The new chicks are approaching maturity so prices will continue to fall unless there is another outbreak.
    Now, Trump should never have said prices would come down once he took office.
    That is a statement that can only bite you in the butt. If prices fall no one talks about it, but if they remain high, folks have the receipts.

    Promise less and over deliver is the way to make yourself look good, not making promises on things that are out of anyone's control.

    Please go back to your scheduled programming.
     
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  11. adoo

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    Trump---thru DOGE---has cut the gov staff tasked to investigate/contain the avian flu
     
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    But the avian flu began before he was in office, so I'm wondering what the point is.

    With all due respect.
    I get your point and I'm no scientist, but I can tell you that all infected birds needed to be and were culled.
    New chicks come, they grow up, they lay eggs, boom.
    Not to make light of your line of thinking but I do not think DOGE is the issue here.
    Now a different situation might arise that needs more brain power, and that will be discussed a nauseum once it happens.
     
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    cutting the gov staff tasked to investigate / contain the spread of avion flue?
     
  14. SamFisher

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    I know this sounds crazy but *only* 30 percent tariffs on China - is going to absolutely cripple economic growth.
     
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    Traitor George parroting Trump 2,0 White House's convenient lie


    China's official statment , ‘Show sincerity’

    “China’s firm opposition to the US’ abuse of tariffs has been consistent.
    If the US truly wants to resolve issues through negotiations … it must show sincerity and
    be prepared to correct its wrongdoings, including removing unilateral tariffs,”​


     
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    Donald Trump is not a serious person.

    The announced China tariff deal is the arsonist announcing that the trade fire that he has started is now maybe sorta under control. The shelves at Walmart will only be partially empty now!!!

    Trump and India were both surprised to find out that Trump is taking credit for the ceasefire that they negotiated bi-laterally themselves.

    Trump announce that he will accepted a $400 million gift from Qatar. POTUS take $400 million from a foreign country all of the time.

    Great weekend, indeed.
     
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  17. SamFisher

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    The 30% tariff is - my guess - going to be largely forgotten in 90 days, who knows whether the 10% (which is still significant!) stays around.

    Basically, the trade war was a total failure - did nothing other than to squander crediblity, disrupt our own economy (the shortages & inflation are still going to happen until the summer) and we ended up no better off and in fact will be worse off going forward.

    In the longer term, the severe disruptoin caused by gutting our entire health, medical & science sectors and destroying the university system as well as nuking international tourist sector, destruction of agricultural labor markts, tariffs on north american goods - still going to create a nasty economy that helps nobody and makes us all poorer and dumber and sicker.
     
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    Sure sheep and Mexico's paying for a big beautiful wall and his replacement for ACA is practically done...

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. adoo

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    and he defeated COVID by ingesting cleaning solutions !
     
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