Hate when people use that term and don’t even understand what it means. Being a lottery pick guarantees nothing in this league. Nothing is guaranteed. If Lebron had a career as a solid 3 and D guy avg 16 ppg that’s not a bust. A bust is a guy who either didn’t perform when given the opportunity to start, wasn’t good enough to be a major contributor in the rotation, found himself out the league after a few years, or never even played a game. Oden was a bust. Adam Morrison was a bust. Jahlil Okafur was a bust. Michael Kidd Gilchrist was a bust. Jalen is none of these guys.
Not the point lol. The point was many Rockets fans criticized Green for not being able to score against the Warriors defense. They employed the same traps and zone defense against Edwards and he struggled. Green also plays in an offense thar dumps it down to one player while everyone watches
He did improve on offense. I have shown the areas where he has. Again a lot of the Rockets problems are the sets they run and personnel issues. I have been critical of him not inviting contact and being more savvy understanding when defenders are out of position. He needs to continue to work on this His scoring in the clutch improved: 24-25: 87 total pts 23-24: 44 total pts Paint scoring improved: Less 5 ft 24-25: 61.1 FG% 23-24 58.7 FG% Drives 24-25: 858 total 10.5 per game 23-24 775 total 9.5 per game Pass on drives% 24-25: 30.2%. 23-24: 27.2% Restricted Area 24-25: 64.2 FG% 23-24: 61.7 FG% Unassisted scoring in the paint improved Less 5 Ft FGM% UAST 24-25: 73.1% 23-24: 61.8% Less 8 Ft FGM% UAST 24-25: 74.3% 23-24: 63% RA FGM% UAST 24-25: 71.9% 23-24: 62.9% Non RA FGM% UAST 24-25: 85.9% 23-24: 71.2% Scoring on pick and roll improved As Pick and roll ball handler 24-25: 42.8 freq% 8.6 pts per game 40.8 Scoring Freq% 42.8 FG% 23-24: 39.3 freq% 7.2 pts per game 39 score freq% 40 FG%
I think in many ways ironically we made that GSW team tougher. Curry said it was some of the best defenses he's seen and they had an emotional players meeting according to Hield when they were in the losing streak to us. If Curry comes back they have a shot to go further with Butler. So yeah, it's not surprising they caught Minnesota off guard and affected them a bit, we'll see how the series progresses. But as far as Jalen, his number one goal needs to let it go and go all in on transforming his body for the playoffs this offseason. Really focus on explosive strength, the physicality for the playoffs, earning games from the line to draw fouls/contact, playmaking and focusing on taking high percentage shots every play (even wide open long twos) and nailing them. He watches film of the greats, he needs to read about The Jordan Rules, where Detroit would basically physically beat Jordan for 48 minutes to win, and how MJ transformed his body and game to win those series. You have to be obsessed with getting better, including training, film, measuring results analytically and rest/recovery every day.
improve in what? His scoring and efficiency were down across the board including an all time low in FT%.
I have been highly critical of Green not being as aggressive when he doesn’t get fouls called or when trapped and triple teamed early. He also needs to play with contact and be more savvy. But again he isn’t all to be blamed as I think the Rockets issues are structural. The Sengun centric offense doesn’t work.
exactly what I told them would happen - but if JG would of went 9-22 they would be all up in arms about that also screaming about why did he keep shooting or he’s inefficient
No wonder when Anthony Edwards had one inefficient game and all these Jalen cultists suddenly got excited again...Jesus, if Jalen could deliver what Ant delivered today, GSW's dead body is already behind us... You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
That's all interesting data. Here's some other interesting data: Jalen's percentage of shots taken within 3 feet of the basket this season was at 19.1% which was the lowest of his career. Jalen took significantly more midrange shots from 10-16 feet this year than in his rookie year. His shots from 16 feet to the 3-point line were the highest proportion of his career. These are problematic because Jalen is terrible from mid-range. Jalen from 10-16 feet (this year) - 29.8% from 16 feet to 3pt line - 37.1% Those are not good. Jalen's free throw rate of .234 was also the lowest of his career. Overall, his true shooting percentage was 54.4% which was below his rookie year mark of 54.7%. Jalen may have improved offensively in some ways but he has become worse in other ways. I like his improvement in his 3-point shooting but don't like that he is shooting less at the rim and more from mid-range. I don't like that he is drawing less fouls than ever. If your argument is that Jalen Green is not a bust then I agree. If your argument is that he has some value and still has a lot of potential than I also agree. If your argument is that he has improved overall as a player since his rookie year, then I also agree. His defense has come a long way. If your argument is that we should be patient with Jalen and commit to him as our offensive focal point, then I think that is unwise. We saw what happened during the playoffs when the defense became more intense. Jalen failed miserably. If your argument is that Jalen is just as important to our future as Alpi and Amen, then I think you are very mistaken. Not only were those two much better during the regular season but they both looked great in the playoffs. Jalen Green is a really likeable player and a tremendous athlete. He's just not a very skilled offensive basketball player yet. I don't like his trajectory as it's been pretty flat offensively. Maybe he'll evolve some but I'd rather they upgrade this summer. Again, I appreciate your defense of Jalen. This board would be awfully boring if everyone just talked about how much Jalen sucked during the playoffs.
Defending him is actually enabling him.....it has the opposite effect of what his fans intended...... .......would be a Curse hanging over him. If he was smart, he would mold himself into a 3 and D guy with scoring.....getting paid like Dillon Brooks.
We saw last night again what a strong defense the Warriors have. The reason why the Fans criticize Jalen Green is, that he only took in one game responsibility. If you want to be the franchise Player you need to go on and dont hide! The strucuter of the Houston offense was too predictable. We know that Jalen can be a special player because he is very talented. But if you dont believe in yourself and try everything to help your team then you are mentaly not the man! I think Jalen is mentaly not strong enough to be it. It not only the first Play Off Series. You can do mistakes, you can got a bad shooting percantage but dont move on as an important part of the Houston offense is not excuseable! You need to be a man! Stand as a man and go on as the leading scorer in the regular Season. Thats what the Houston fans waiting from your PG! If its not enough because its not your day or your series i got no problems with that. I saw that this young guy was broken. You can change his role but for that his contract is too expensive. I see only 2 options about Jalen: First option is giving him one more year to prove, that he can play hard matches and lead the team or second option you trade him. I like Jalens style how he play basketball if he is in the game and he works but if is hiding and the most matches against tough teams is doing that i hate him. We will see after the Season what happens with this Lineup.
It isn't surprising that Stone is defending Jalen because Stone truly believes in his players. In the pre-Ime days, he clung to Kevin Porter, of all people! He held on to Eric Gordon until the very end. Now Jalen's getting the same treatment. Stone plans to keep his cards and will only discard them when their contracts expire. You can play the GM game this way, but I'm unconvinced you can win a championship with this style of roster management.
Never said any of that. I was just responding to the statement made that his offense did not improve. Getting to the paint is important for scoring guards and he certainly focused on that this year. On the flipside Sengun posted all time lows in multiple categories yet many fans deem that he progressed. This is the bias. I think both guys took a step forward but also stagnant or backwards in some ways. I am about honest evaluations and understanding what we watch. To say one guy progressed and the other didn’t is simply untrue and biased.
Sengun's efficiency dropped considerably. It was really disappointing. At the same time, Sengun has actually become an excellent defensive player. He's also one of the best passing big men in the NBA. He's also a great rebounder. He's just a much better overall player than Jalen. They're not even in the same tier even with Alpi's decreased efficiency Alpi has progressed a lot more than Jalen. Jalen has definitely progressed a lot on defense and that is important.
