Does Giannis have Houston and San Antonio on top of his list?

Giannis would automatically make the Rockets better, but he would have to wait a few seasons for the young players to develop before they'd be a serious contender. Given that the championship window with Giannis is probably three years at most, the fit doesn't quite make sense to me.

Then again, they could go the Garnett/Allen/Pierce era Celtics route and trade away most of the young guys for the right combination of veteran stars to complement Giannis.

 

But then if Giannis does break down, they would be exactly like the Brooklyn version of KG and Pierce......with no young players left.

There should be a balanced evaluation and thinking of this.

 

Sengun is better than castle. Castle had a worst inefficient season like Jalen’s rookie season.

 

legit!

 

Yeah it's definitely an all or nothing move. That Celtics team got a championship and a few more years of true contention out of it, and that was the best outcome.

But if the right combination of stars were to become available, the Rockets probably would be tempted.

 

Ime and Dream too

 

Amen has shown that he is figuring out his scoring spots. He doesn't have to be a 3pt shooter for space, that's Brooks and Reed. I didn't see Amen having trouble with Sengun and Adams on the floor. Having Giannis helps everyone with his passing and attention

 

There were mentions that Nico called the Bucks for Giannis and Spurs for Wemby, and the answer was just a flat no from both. He then called the Lakers and that was it.

 

Jalen + Sengun for Giannis.

Clear upgrade from Sengun
Get rid of trash and clear out all the JOFs.

Win Win in my opinnion

 

The Bucks need picks. They have none and they don’t have enough rotation worthy players. Just Sengun and Jalen won’t cut it, but it might cut back the number of picks we would have to give up. We can’t trade this year’s draft pick unless we get a 26 back. So Bucks get Jalen and Sengun the 27 suns pick and the 29 Dallas pick for Giannis. That leaves you 3 really good picks to go after your Jalen replacement and bench shooters. Take the team option on FVV and trade him to Utah as an expiring with 2 picks for John Collins and Sexton.

Amen
Sexton
Jabari
Collins
Giannis.

Reed
Cam
Tari
Dillon
25 pick.

 

Why is everyone so high on Castle? He is 2025 Malcom Brogdon, under 15ppg on a tanking team doesn’t scream out future star. I’ve seen him from the NCAA and he doesn’t have that aura to be a star

 

Very different player.......Castle is an almost 6'7 tall ish guard that is a top defender and can score a little.

Brogdon is a 6'3 combo guard who is best used as a microwave scorer.

 

He is being overrated just like rookie of the year Paolo. Awards don’t really mean sh*t. Castle won by default in the weakest draft in a couple of decades. He’s like Jalen, if he develops a consistent 3, he will be all-star level. If he doesn’t he is a journeyman in 3 years.

 

No it's not going to be ok because it's never been ok in the NBA. I don't think you get that we're not guessing here. There's no such thing that has happened successfully in the NBA and Amen is not a better offensive player than those who have tried.

Please check the last 25 years of championship rosters. You can't win with 2 high usage players not being able to shoot 3's.

Amen Thompson was mediocre at getting to the rim in the halfcourt in this series and was only able to do it for 1 game with single coverage. On the season, he's worse at it than Jalen Green. With double teams, he will be less efficient than with single coverage. Those are facts, not opinions.

It would be an absolute shame if we suffocated him like that. This is the only fanbase I've ever seen that doesn't want to help its own players. It's so weird. Everyone else fights over how to get their stars more spacing. Here it's as if people like more difficulty? Can't understand this.

 

So we didn't see Bron and Wade go to 4 finals with 2 high usage non 3 pt shooters? Last Giannis avg 2 more shot attempts per game than Jalen, yet he scored 10 more pts per game. Not only that, he shot 10 fts per game. If he's getting players in foul trouble and not taking a bunch of shots, how does that not help all the players? They double Giannis alot, doesn't that open the floor for Thompson?

 

I just saw that Hakeem is also of Nigerian descent. So Ime, Hakeem and Giannis are all of the same descent.

If we can get Hakeem into that meeting with Giannis I don’t see how he doesn’t sign here. He can work with Giannis on polishing those post moves and we would instantly be a championship contender. Giannis also has a lot of respect for Ime and his championship experience.

I hope the Rockets shell out some money and sign Naz Reid. He could be a legit starter next to Giannis or Sengun and would be the floor spacer we need to run the double big lineup.

 

Bron was a better shooter in Miami than any of Giannis, Sengun or Amen have ever been in their lives. That's not what we have if you're talking Amen and Giannis.

The only non-shooter there was Wade and they closed games with Bosh at C initially who quickly became a jumpshooting C for them because with Wade - despite being elite in midrange - they couldn't win enough with just a regular C who is useless outside the paint.

Also dude: you and I both know you went through the list and found one bad example in 20+ years. That in itself is your answer right there.

More importantly: it's not like no one tried it. You found one bad example. There is a whole graveyard of teams who tried it and failed - including the Bucks with Giannis.

 

Wembly
Giannis
Socran
Fox
Castle

 

So, they Giannis didn't win a title and avg like 40 in the finals? Didn't he take down KD Nets that season too right? You get Giannis and you work pieces and you develop players. Player development means they know where their shots going to come from in the offense. Go look at Kenny Smith in Sacramento vs Houston. He was a 3pt shooter in Sacramento, but he scored more, but in Houston he knew his 3pt shot had to be better because he was going to get those all day. Brooks Lopez wasn't even shooting 3s until he got to Milwaukee. Boston 2 best players shoot 34% from 3 and there isn't a problem. Again, the rockets biggest problem to me is shot creation. When FVV or Jalen is dribbling the clock down trying to get a shot or Sengun is pump faking, twirling, twisting and then missing layups or bunnies, that's an issue.

 

Ok I think your heart is set on this so I'll just keep it short: Brook Lopez was acquired because he was a shooter before he came to Milwaukee (shot 34% the previous 2 years and shot on average 34% the following 2 seasons). Giannis blew up from the day he arrived.

I think my point has been made that no one has won a championship on over 2 decades with 2 non-shooters on the floor. I'm talking about people who shoot in the 20's or less. Not even Giannis who is one of my favorite players and you honestly don't need to convince me he's an amazing player.

If what you're saying is you HOPE someone improves, yes me too I hope they do with development. In fact me (and Udoka) made it a point last summer to say it's very important Sengun learns how to shoot. They sent several trainers to him in the summer to work on it. It didn't pan out. That could happen again, it happens. I think Sengun is not far from being able to shoot, maximum 2 years. Personally I prefer not to bet on things that haven't happened yet. If you're more optimistic about that, I'm not mad at you for that. I'm just saying it's a massive risk to take because Giannis will cost a LOT of assets.

Can you see that's fair too?