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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. Space Ghost

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    Oh lookie. we have an arrogant muslim who is better than all the other muslims. and everyone else.
     
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  2. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    None of those support your claims that it was the IDF and not Hamas that was killing over a thousand Israelis. The first in fact specifically says that they used the helicopters against the terrorists coming across the border because they didn't want to risk hitting civilians. Not even Hamas denies that they killed the Israelis on October 7th, so I don't know why you are trying to push this nonsense idea that the Israelis killed their own people. You can watch videos of the terrorists shooting Israelis and throwing grenades into bus shelters where unarmed people are hiding. The people you support are murderers and cowards and they all deserve to die.
     
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  3. Space Ghost

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    explains a lot TBH
     
  4. Exiled

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    I think he's the other Biden's crackhead son from his maid
     
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  5. astros123

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    Atleast I'm not the dipshit loser who thought daddy Trump was going to rescue muslims as our savior. Its wild you still post in this section after being exposed as the braindead grifter as you are. You're a disgrace and a moron
     
  6. lionaire

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    I never said Hamas didn't kill israelis. I'm saying it's not verified how many they killed vs how many died to friendly fire.

    There's first hand accounts from survivors that it happened.
    Electronic Intifada

    Ynet

    Again, even the minister of defense of the terrorist army confirmed it:


    https://electronicintifada.net/cont...ed-completely-israeli-tank-fire-kibbutz/41706
    I don't support the israeli's thank you but I do agree they are murderers, cowards and deserve to die.
     
  7. lionaire

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    Your whole gripe is that people should've voted for this party?? Foolish little lib

     
  8. right1

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    There is a big difference between your statement and his.

    Stupidmoniker said that Hamas terrorists are murderers and deserve to die, specifically the military-aged men who participated in an attack on civilians on Oct. 7

    You say Israelis are murderers and deserve to die. Israelis are little Muslim & Christian girls, white, brown & black Jews, Druze families, elderly grandmothers, babies, Arab imams and a bunch of other innocent, unarmed, peaceful people you wish death upon.
     
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  9. astros123

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    Again. There was a permanent ceasefire option on the table BEFORE the IDF invaded Gaza. The Arab nations rejected the ceasefire and pressured Israel to invade Gaza bcz they didn't want to deal with Hamas in any capacity

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...turn-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/

    Your braindead conspiracies with unnamed sources don't mean ****
     
  10. lionaire

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    What I say doesn't matter. Which parties actions actually reflect either statement? Which party is indiscriminately bombing Muslim and Christian women, men and children?
     
  11. lionaire

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    Read the articles you post brother. "Egypt proposed a "vision" rather than a concrete plan." What pull does Egypt have in this? They can't even gain control of the Rafah crossing.

    Regardless, your response is a nasty goalpost shift from what I was addressing, which is that your idea that democrats would've been better on this issue than the current administration is foolish and naive. Biden oversaw and greenlit this genocide. He bypassed Congress to send daily shipments of weapons to the genocidal state and his successor Harris would've done the same. America is bipartisan when it comes to foreign policy. Both parties are israel-first warmongerers.
     
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    Judging by the headlines, the latest Bibi herpes flareup is to goad or frame Iran into interfering.
     
  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Both parties actions accurately reflect my statement. Hamas, during a time of relative peace, invaded Israel and targeted people's homes and a music festival in addition to military targets. The shot and grenaded and raped and RPGed people who were armed with glowsticks and dance moves. They cut off a dude's head with a garden implement. Those are the actions of murderous cowards who deserve to die.

    The IDF, in direct response to the above, has undertaken a military campaign against the people that did this. They are using infantry to go into hostile held territory and engage with them while being shot at from ostensibly civilian buildings. They are risking their lives to try to recover hostages taken by the cowards who attacked them and then went and hid among the civilian population (a civilian population that seems all to happy to let Hamas hide among them). Those are the actions of heroes.

    Your statement is nonsense that isn't even being pushed by the people you are supporting any more. Hamas is gleeful that they killed a thousand plus Israelis and have repeatedly said they would do it again at every opportunity. It is unfortunate that so many are taken in by their r****ded victimhood propaganda. Hopefully this time October 7th was enough provocation that Israel does not give up until the job is done.
     
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    Egypt has ALWAYS been the mediator for decades. The fact that you dont know basic knowledge shows how braindead of a human you are. Biden didn't "greenlit" the genocide. Hamas attacked Israel then refused to go into exile. Hamas could've given up power at any point in the war and the war would be stopped but hamas knows they have braindead morons as activists in the west like yourself who will run cover for them.

    Its always funny how low iq Palestinian activists like yourself have so much beef for Israel but none for Saudis who killed 400k Muslims in Yemen alone during trumps last term. Saudis starved 80k children to death

    Muslims killing Muslims = perfectly fine
    Muslims killing jews= perfectly fine
    Jews kill Muslims= it's all bidens fault lol

    You low iq activists who run cover for hamas are morons and nothing more
     
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  15. lionaire

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    Relative peace? As if the Palestinians weren't living under a brutal occupation and apartheid state. Your brain is riddled with the same brain worms that occupy RFK's noggin. History begins and ends on Oct 7 for you zionist freaks.
     
  16. lionaire

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    I don't support any of the US vassal states and that includes both israel and saudi. You can call me braindead all you want but you're the one that still believes that the occupiers would just stop their acts of terrorism against the Palestinians if Hamas didn't exist in Gaza. They were mass murdering Palestinians before Hamas leaders were even born.
     
  17. strosb4bros

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    whats wrong with that thought though? tons of muslims feel obligated to support hamas and justify violence because they think they are sticking together. But if you took religion out of it they wouldn't give 2 hoots and think hamas were barbaric AF based on actions. it's holding them back from progressing.
     
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    super naive. no muslim nation in the ME wants Palestinians. They have never wanted them. All the talk about Islam brotherhood but they don't actually want people who radicalize easy and act out with violence no matter who's on the other side. They were bombing egypt 8 years ago.
     
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  19. astros123

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    The Arab states pressured Bibi to invade Gaza and eliminate Hamas! They were the biggest supporters of the IDF mission to eliminate Hamas. Braindead activists in the west @lionaire are the only people who support Hamas.

    You can support Palestinians while also wanting to eliminate Hamas.
     
  20. lionaire

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    It's awesome that we're just using the same talking points used by Hitler against the Jews now. There's already hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees who were forced out of their homes by the zionist occupiers and now live in surrounding countries such as Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon etc.
     

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