For what return though? If we trade Jalen, we need to get at least a good player, and hopefully without giving up any more assets. I’m thinking that the front office is also weighing their options, Jalen’s stock has honestly never been lower. And this is (thankfully) not the type of FO to make rash decisions in the midst of emotional turmoil. I’m totally open to moving Jalen now, but anything I can think of that we get back for him would be worse.
Lost to the Warriors in Boston and now here. Just seems like he’s too stubborn and doesn’t learn from his mistakes. Drilling defense with no real offensive system will get you no where but a bunch of low scoring games and losses in the playoffs.
Definitely not an advocate of standing pat. This series was a failure and revealed major issues. We choked a game 7 at home and lost a game they played without Butler. Maybe looking at their hot record against easy teams post ASB convinced you that the Warriors are amazing, but the truth is they were not amazing. They're going to get swallowed up by the Wolves. Strategically this game was absurdly stupid. Do you have any idea how historically elite you have to be inside the paint to overcome the fact that we took only 18 3pters the whole game? We would have to have made 10 more 2PT shots just to tie this game, that's 53% from the field we would have been. If your team is hoping to make 53% from the field to win a brutally defensive series, the plan is stupid. It gets even more stupid, because we needed to go 10 of 10 and everyone thinks that can be achieved with floaters and midrange shots. You obviously can't. Jalen Green was a catastrophe. Amen and Sengun simply can't carry offense without a 3PT shot. Alpi was 21 points on 19 shots for this series and he was our best scorer. Amen had 16 points on 12 shots. You want to act like that's ok with single coverage just because Jalen is playing garbage but still drawing double teams? That Amen and Sengun went 37 points on 31 shots with single coverage was not concerning also? We practically gamed Steph Curry out of the series, did the Warriors bend over or did the rest of their team take advantage of us taking the ball out of his hands with double teams? You replace Green with a shooter who doesn't draw double teams, where do you think Jalen's double teams are going to go and what's that going to do? It's going on Amen because Sengun is already just 21 points on 19 shots with single coverage from a DPOY candidate. That means Amen scores even less than 16 points on 12 shots. That's a disaster of a plan. Amen can put up 20 regularly in the right offense. Even if we traded Jalen tomorrow, we have a massive problem on this team the following day. If you're starting a non-shooting wing who you believe has the highest ceiling on the team, then you should have built the team around him.
A cam johnson for jalen swap makes sense for both teams I think. The money is not too far off if i recall and Cam adds much needed shooting. A good defender, versatile and has played in the finals. Brooklyn is in a complete rebuild so theyve got a bit larger window to give Jalen all the playing time to keep growing without compromising their season goals. Plus hes still young enough where they can be sold on his upside as a potential star player for them down the line.
Here you go again with your BS Jalen posts. Jalen DID NOT FACE double teams in game 7. I watched the game again on 2x speed, bro had 1 on 1 defenders on multiple possessions. He did not have double teams like Curry was facing, or what FVV faced last game with multiple defenders rushing him. You are full of **** with your excuses for Jalen.
folks too emotional to look at it like we look at it - Kerr gameplan was wonderful and Ime fell for the same trap he did in game 3 and 4 even when we got game within 3 (GS hit a 3) lead back to 6 got game to 5 ( GS hit a 3) within 7 ( GS hits a 3) just chasing our own tail … I would of rather had DB Bari Jeff Green/Amen FVV and JG hoisting 3s and playing fast …. Than trying to grind it out and when we finally score turn around and give up another heartbreaking 3
You don’t know ball - every time they went to dribble handoff , JG man and Alpi man went with him and then Looney or Draymond were at the rim waiting ( 3 players on his side of court ) he kicks ball to Alpi around FT line or back out to FVV …. JG should of done what Amen did off rebounds and just push it to front of rim over and over - I rather that and you have a chance Amen or Alpi cleans it up vs not getting shot attempts up at all end of day - that’s a coaching issue - they played us 5 games and we never adjusted because Ime loves paint possessions even if you only scoring 4*% of the time
First off, how is Draymond double teaming JG when he is the one mostly guarding Alpi around the key? So you're telling me Draymond rolls off Alpi to double team Jalen at the perimeter WHILE ALSO waiting at the rim? No, he was always on Alpi, he was always around the key waiting and cutting off Jalen's drives with good defencive positioning. that is not a double team. This is a normal half court set defence. Jalen had 1 on 1 defences on him most of the game, GSW just had to have good positioning. They never sent double teams on him. At no point did 2 defenders rush to Jalen like they have done with Curry and FVV.
sir do you know how to read and comprehend - Draymond was the rim protector majority of time because he sagged off Alpi … it was a few times he was the 2nd defender once JG beat his man… Jesus Christ you try and debate and don’t even have a point to stand on
The problem is Jalen's doubles in this series is going to bad shooters. Warriors don't care if Jalen passes it out to Brooks, they really don't. They were worried about Jabari though, I've never seen a guy playing 12 mins get as many callouts from them in post game pressers. It really is a lineup thing, Bari and Holiday should have played more. They can hit open threes, they should have played more. We can argue all day about if Cam should have played in the season, moot point now, but Bari and Holiday 100% should have played more so that it softened their doubles especially if they hit shots. The gameplan seemed to be just on stopping the Warriors and nothing else. Seems the plan was if we get enough stops we'll win by default.
There's different kinds of doubles, it's not always a hard press, they were often shading Jalen and denying him the lane should he beat his guy. Sometimes he would and get them to commit to the double and then he would pass it off. Now, this is beatable. We're going to see Ant beat it because Ant just isn't going to settle for having 10 point games for most of a series. He simply won't do it. Jalen can beat it by either just forcing the issue, not caring that Draymond is in the paint waiting for him and challenging him in the paint or the coach can scheme it better and help him out...this includes perhaps changing the lineup some or simply pushing the pace more so that he's not attacking a set defense. But watch, Minny will do EVERYTHING to make sure Ant gets his offense because they know they can't win without it. Either way, both failed, Ime and Jalen failed. Ime because he was content with GSW taking him out of the series...and this was the plan. Draymond just confirmed it that the plan was to take him out of the series and basically ruin his confidence. Ime was fine with this though, he was fine with them taking out one of our only offensive weapons the entire season and that's a major failure on him. Jalen failed because he let it happen. I understand Ime wants him to be a 'decoy' but Jalen has to realize it got him embarrassed this year. Arenas said some real **** on his podcast, he said sometimes you have to go into business for yourself because they'll have you passing the ball playing decoy then will turn around and blame you for not scoring. So Jalen should have stepped up there, yeah, Ime might have wanted him to kick out but sometimes he should have just said F that and attacked the rim and made something happen.
I'm truly hoping that they run it back. I think with another year of experience that this team will be much better. I think Jalen, Sengun we'll learn from this experience. It's one of those things to where we are passionate about our team but it's also important not to do anything that's knee-jerk and allow things to simmer and not allow the best of our emotions at this time encourage poor decision making. We need to develop Jabari more does an alternative to Sengun, someone before suggested maybe an offensive coordinator to help out with coaching which would be a good idea just to bring in new ideas. Free throw shooting is also going to be important but these are all easily achievable things without doing things that are borderline irrational.
Sagging off is literally good positioning, at no point does Draymond leave Alpi and rush up to Jalen. When you double, you are leaving your man behind. When we doubled Curry it was 2 players rushing with 3 players left to cover 4 positions in a zone. When FVV was doubled it left them also with 3 players to cover our 4 remaining. Sagging off is literally what good set defences do in half court, it's like saying playing zone defence is double teaming. No, it's just good defencive positioning. The problem with you and mathloom is you thing you're right and you start being condescending, which is what makes you liltte b****es.
Yeah I wanted them to win, but you could tell game 3, the experience wasn't there for the bigger parts of the team. They expected Warriors to fold with no Butler and saw the same lack of energy tonight when they thought the momentum was on them, probably hyped by the media too and played into it. Like playing slow pace/slow half court, what'd they have like 3 team assists TOTAL in the first half? Just checked, 3 ****ing assists.... And 14 for the game, can't win like that. They needed to run but lacked the energy/intensity and played into the Warriors experience/their pace. I think this was probably the the worst first round team for a young team to get, plus the fact Warriors were on a what, like 23-7 run since the trade to even be in these playoffs? The other thing is the fact that 4 wins from 2nd - 7th seed not much of a difference, teams were a lot closer to each other than the seeding showed and if Butler didn't get hobbled I really don't know how close this would have been. I mean sure if Houston got some bounces maybe they win but it's just a young team and they need to get back in the gym in the off season. Rockets should have made more adjustments too, especially once Payton wasn't playing in the game, but that's besides the point. You can't win a game with 14 assists TOTAL (especially when you lack a proven star you can go to late in the game). Houston was lucky it was even close for a portion, this is before looking at the 3 points attempted and other issues going on. Only Thompson showed up to play tonight. Houston was literally playing like they were in the lead and not moving the ball for ****, fortunately the team is young and can grow from this, but if this was a usual western conference standings type season, Houston would have probably been 4-7th seed with this record, fortunately they're young. I really wanted them to put the Warriors out but they didn't, and the better team won. The only time Houston had a chance to legit beat the Warriors was 2018, I wouldn't feel as bad/down on this or lump them in with previous years though. Rockets need to use the experience to get better/grow and add the pieces, especially on the offensive side, at least 1 star and they win this assuming they keep Thompson/Sengun with that star. Fortunately this is probably the Warriors last dance, so w/e, Houston just needs to make some adjustments and they'll be an actual top tier team, they're moving a lot faster than anyone gave them credit for and that's good thing, because the league is literally in a passing the torch period, so Houston has a legit window assuming they make the right moves, time will tell.
