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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. meh

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    I don't count the end of regular season games against him. The Rockets had no stakes in any of those. But he is definitively 1/4 in terms of showing up in the playoffs.
     
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    You do realise you're talking to one of the biggest Jalen homers who now no longer has him as an avatar, and has given up on him, right? I know how you feel, just the hyperbole is what allows people to discount it as haterism rather than valid criticism. The fact is, he didn't actually have a bad year at all, it'd make it easier if he had. He had a good year that fooled me into thinking he'd finally put it together, only for him to crumble again as soon as the pressure was on. So I'm out on him now.
     
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    For what is worth I think he is still a productive player if he ever develops a go to game......just not a Top 5 player that some envisioned.

     
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    I think he's a fringe starter at best, and it's got nothing to do with his ability. He's shown he has the tools to be a top 5 player. Not just a couple of times either, go see which other players have the same level of high scoring, high efficiency games as Jalen? Every single one of them is an absolute superstar. We're not talking the Lavines and Beals, we're talking the LeBrons, Lukas and KDs. How is that? It's because his issues are entirely mental, he doesn't have the mentality to be a winning athlete, if he did his talents would carry him the rest of the way because honestly - his talents when he's on put him in such rarefied company that he SHOULD have been on path to be one of the top 5 players in the league. That's the worst bit about it all tbh, this isn't a kid who's falling short because he's not quite got that level of ability, this is a kid who DOES have that level of ability just can't actually utilise it enough for it to be worthwhile.
     
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    Jalen got psychological Problems i think. How can a player be so talented and be so inconsistent?! In my opinion he cannot be a leader of a championshop team. You cannot play 1 game amazing and 3 games bad! Its very sad, that might be the Rockets lose against this Warriors Team.
     
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    I think the coach problem, the coach is so attached to some players that when they do wrong when they make a reserve, the coach is inadequate to teach how to improve their mistakes. Is it the NBA team to be a major offensive plan, even in the last position, even in the last position did not have a certain offensive pattern. They gave the ball to alpi, thats it, neither drew a set nor surprise..
     
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    I'm afraid he's just topped out. While he has the physical tools to be more, he hasn't shown the kind of progression over the years/games/minutes that make me feel confident he's going to put it together.

    It's no shame on him. I do believe he's worked hard. Some just don't have it. It shouldn't be that surprising. The ones that do have it are exceedingly rare.
     
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    I have been one of the first to say that he was not the smartest, admittedly there was a lot of cynism throughout the years but as a matter of a fact I still put the IQ attribute at the top......we have seen Joker and SGA - two smart individuals who know their limitations and strengths and how to work on their weaknesses and improve.

    The reason I love hearing from Euro Leaugue, a lot of balanced team oriented basketball....
     
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    Jalen Green is not an NBA player. He can not be play off team player.
    He does not have mental strength, he is weak..
    His physical strength can be ok for NBA ignite league, but not for NBA...
     
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    Sorry man, everyone wanted you to be right.

    DD
     
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    How bad is it that Jalen could put up back to back 40 pt games on crazy 3pt shooting nights and I still wouldn't regain faith in him? He'd have to basically be the second coming of Kobe/Jordan for the rest of the playoffs for me to still want him on the team tbh.
     
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    Zubac also has one of the greatest offensive players in the history of the NBA taking all the pressure off of him. Swap VanVleet and Harden, and watch Zubac's numbers turn to ****.
     
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    Again, completely missed the point. We're not discussing Zubac, he's just somebody who puts up similar numbers - those numbers are not star player numbers. I don't know why y'all all keep saying the same thing, it's not actually addressing the point being discussed, it's not even a good deflection.
     
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    Uh, Jalen is supposed to be the Harden on this team. He sucks at it and will be gone after the season.
     
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    Smith, Sengun, Eason, and Thompson just need a backcourt equal to them in skill and athleticism.
     
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    Let's end the excuses.

    Jalen hasn't had a great year. His year looks pretty much the same as the other three years. This will be hard for some, but his stats are almost exactly the same. His three pointers improved but his two point shots worsened. His defense is better. Yawn.

    He's the same player he's been for the last four years. As people have said, no real offensive improvement, no signature shot, depends on athleticism, can't beat Curry off the dribble, etc. Again, he's a bit better at defensive than he was before. These playoffs didn't prove anything, this is the Jalen he is

    Why is his play so bad? I don't know, but I think it's a combination of basketball IQ/decision-making and mental makeup. When he makes good decisions his play is good or even great. Poor decisions leads to poor shots and turnovers.

    Mental makeup is HUGE for Jalen. He's a confidence player and when he's not feeling it he's doomed. The Jalen off the court suggested there might be problems on the court. And I think things happen off court and it hurts his game immensely.

    What to do? Keep Jalen this summer because you won't get anything for him in trades. I know there's a sunk cost fallacy but hear me out. Get a good point guard and start Jalen in the fall. Build him back up. Then trade his ass at the deadline. I don't think he could perform well enough where I would want to keep him. Make him look good and then trade him so he can be someone else's problem.

    If he starts the season poorly, then I'd consider moving him to the bench and be resigned to trading him for whatever at the deadline. Don't let his poor play hurt the team or its development of players.

    I forgot one thing: that fake tough guy act at the end of the last game. Getting manipulated by Draymond and acting like you're going to bring it. Just terrible. First, it's not going to do anything good. Draymond's not going to be intimidated and you're just giving them bulletin board material. Second, you had one good game and two shtty ones and you're chirping. Third, hardly any great players do this. They are quiet and play. Fourth, you played like that after talking that mess. Mentally weak.
     
  18. gfab-babyboi

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    I blame JG for his lack of aggressiveness

    I blame the coaching staff for not being prepared for what Kerr would do

    That’s why it’s called coaching, Ime or whoever the offensive coach for the Rockets failed to JG after Game 2

    Game 1 he had jitters and they seen they had to get FVV off the ball more

    Game 2 we set a bunch of screens and allowed JG to get downhill in space

    Game 3 we seen Kerr gameplan and the adjustment was for him to get ball in the paint to Alpi and Amen …

    Game 4, we made no adjustment to try and get him going …same dumb ass actions - did we attempt double screens…or moving Alpi and PNR action to baseline… using Adams as the screener… using both Adams and Bari as screeners?

    What about staggering the lineup, play JG with DB Tari Bari and Amen or Adams - letting him play spread

    We did nothing but expect him to go vs doubles and blitzes and hit difficult shot attempts which he only attempted 8 and was at 50% at half before start of 3rd debacle

    Ime mindset is so set on defense he does nothing for his offensively gifted players - while Kerr teaches a master class

    this summer JG needs to lock himself in gym with Sam Cassell and CP3 …F the 3pt shot… no need to go run those summer league games … he needs to focus on developing his midrange / floater game and drawing fouls / playing through contact
     
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    Well, he's shitty at creating anything that isn't a step back 3 or a drive into traffic. Golden State has this idiot scouted to a T. They know he possesses 0 pull-up or floater game and will take one too many steps on his drive and create shitty passing lanes for his teammates. he's also weak with the ball when he dribbles. Ime's offense isn't great, but Green has no ability or skill to do anything besides shoot 3's or layups.
     
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  20. Dobbizzle

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    Nah he just needs to be traded, he blew it.
     
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