8 years of Harden made our brains think "offensive hub" is the only method to generate offense in the playoffs. Is Tatum a offensive hub? Booker? Heliocentrism isn't the only method to win in the playoffs. Anthony Edwards isn't even offensive hub. He's just a more dangerous version of the current version of Green. But he isn't some heliocentric player that gets you 10 assists a game while scoring 30 like a Luka or Jokic or Harden. Ime has offensive creativity limitations.
Zubac's numbers are 18.8 11.5 3.3, and he's doing it on 64% from the field. He's a role player. Sengun's supposed to be our big all star/franchise player.
Why do you say this when jalen and sengun are paid exactly the same? I showed you the % of the cap their contracts will be and it’s virtually identical.
As someone has mentioned, Harden makes players look better than they are. A lot better. Do you remember Capela? Imagine how good Sengun, Jalen, everyone would be with Harden. Put Zubac on our team and do you think he puts up those numbers?
could’ve fooled me with all the hype exalted on Sengun One would think our actual All-Star would put the team on his back, but I guess not. We gotta rely on streaky bum Jalen Green to do that. it’s like relying on the nurse to come up with the treatment plan for a patient…nah, that’s the doctor’s job
Again, your point is irrelevant. Forget Harden, forget anybody else. Sengun's numbers are not star player numbers, if he was a real star player, they would be and he wouldn't need somebody else to spoonfeed them for him (that's the roleplayers, he's already performing at that level.)
Is Tatum an offensive hub? Yeah - he is. Booker? No - I don't think he is good enough at this point to lead a teams offense. He is best suited as a #2-3 type option than can lead an offense at times. Anthony Edwards has to show it going deep into the playoffs - but yeah, he is capable of carrying an offense. Jalen Green isn't in the same class as those players at this point, he doesn't produce to their level or as consistently. Teams need players to be able to carry the offensive load in the playoffs and Rockets don't have that. They know that though - and they will attempt to find someone that can carry a larger offensive load and open up opportunities for everyone else, including Green and Sengun.
I have heard as many people call Green the Rockets franchise player as Sengun. Doesn't really matter because neither is a franchise player -but both are good players. If either was a real franchise player - we wouldn't be debating it.
Ok, you win. Not because I think your hatred for JG makes no sense to me...but because this conversation just isn't interesting to me any more. He could score 50 tonight and you'd still find a way to b****. So congrats.
Jalen has improved as a basketball player and is a good player - that is being asked to do more than he should. If he is ever able to focus on scoring and shooting, I think he can get 25 a night and improve his percentages.
Tatum is absolutely not a offensive hub dude. His usage, assists etc don't match one of a offensive hub. He's just a efficient scorer that has gravity. Again, you are using specific language. You are using "hub". I repeat. Tatum, Booker, Ant are not offensive hubs. LaMelo Ball is more of a offensive hub than any of those guys even though they have experienced a lot more success.
You can have a different definition of an offensive hub or franchise player than I do - but, like Giannis and some others --- a guy like Tatum that gets 27/9/6 on high efficiency is an offensive hub to me. That is who the Celtics are going to go to most of the time to create offense, and he is very good at it. Kevin Durant is similar to that... Giannis as well. Are they Jokic good at it? No, but they are still offensive hubs. They can score consistently on their own, they demand defensive attention and can create for others. We can discuss the differences about franchise player and offensive hub etc. - but it doesn't change the fact that whatever definition we agree on, the Rockets lack that player on their roster. The Rockets don't have a player like Tatum or Giannis or Doncic. As for LeMelo Ball - he is very talented, he has the upside to carry an offense as a scorer and passer - but he isn't very good at it at this point, time will tell if he gets there or not.
I think you are lumping any good first option on contending teams as the same level of player. The offensive talent gap between Green/Sengun and Tatum/Brown is near non existent. The difference between them is experience and possibly offensive system (spacing, off ball movement, coaching etc). I remember the Celtics and Tatum struggled offensively for most of the season under Ime but took steps forward defensively. Don't lump Tatum in with Giannis, Luka, Jokic.
Sengun has to play better, too many missed easy shots inside and too many missed FTs. He’s not exempt. He’s capable
How is Giannis going to be effective if Sengun can only play within 12 ft of the hoop? There is a reason why they have attempted to surround Giannis with stretch big type players.
The coverages changed depending on the matchups on the floor. There were late traps to make him pick the ball up etc. He wasn’t played the same way every time. Yes he was face guarded at times but the Rockets ran dribble handoffs to try to free him too. That’s playoff basketball man. My thing with him is he needs to attack the basket more especially when his shot isn’t falling. He has such a speed advantage on everyone. 13 for 25 in Game 2 (win) and 7-28 in the losses. He’s capable of being better, He’s got to go do it though. Amen & Fred could help by not shooting so terribly too. Sengun needs to dominate his matchup and make his FTs. No way Draymond should be able to guard him. Jalen and Alpi are the engines, they falter, winning is damn near impossible.
You are insane if you think the offensive talent gap between Green/Sengun and Tatum/Brown is non existent. Tatum's stats under Udoka were virtually the same as they were this season.
