I just genuinely worry that Stone doesn't get it. We have better talents on this team and we cant spend anymore time or resources on this guy. We screamed about this when it came to KPj and he still gave him an inexplicable extension. What did we know as fans anyway? Turns out: much more than Rafael Stone.
Hold on, remember how you had to make your comment after game 2, to prove your point? Good lord get some self awareness you utter clown. No I don't hope for Jalen to be bad, you see it doesn't take a rocket scientist to piece together the idea that I would very much like to see my favourite team win. I have no point to really need to prove, Jalen does it himself quite often. Which is why it was so hilarious seeing your call out post after game 2. I like how you had to tuck your tail in between your legs with the end of your reply, as if you didn't bring this upon yourself.
Lesser talents don't get game planned for in the manner in which Green is game planned for. When Amen or Cam get the respect that Green gets where he's face guarded 90 ft from the rim, then let's talk. And no he didbt have "1 v 1" situations. There hasn't been a play where a iso clear out for Green occured. Do not confuse a single defender at the POA on Green means he's playing one on one. Multiple defenders are ignoring their assignments to guard Green's potential driving lanes. This isn't an issue of Green not being able to beat his primary defender. He can anytime. The times he isn't it's because he sees the defense behind his primary defender and realizes it isn't a true iso. This team doesn't run any true iso clear outs for Jalen. If he's isolated one on one at the wing with only one defender between him and the rim he almost always scores. The problem is his teammates aren't clearing out properly and are taking up space where the defender can ignore their assignments and concentrate on Green's driving lane. This isn't to say Jalen shouldn't improve as a player to overcome these type of defenses. He needs to learn to reposition better. Having a consistent middie game can allow him to consistently put up buckets even if defenses play him like this. So a better middie game and possibly better cardio to be able to run off screen like Steph and get free. A better tripple threat middie game would allow him to score in those pseduo one on one situations where he doesn't have to either take a step back there or go all the way to the rim in a crowded paint. He's going to have to build more strength to have that middie tripple threat type game.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. aaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha. That's a good one. I guess if this is true, the only question I have is, why doesn't he like to do it the vast majority of the time he has the ball? ................................. <- put your excuse here
outside of the FVV crap he's done an ok job. Upto the coach to orchestrate plays and play the guys I will say Stone absolutely needs to understand that if you can't shoot you have no place in the modern NBA (very very few exceptions)
This is just sort of what you have to live with when you have highly inconsistently players like Green. One game he was a hero, the other two he was worthless. You'll never know which version of him will show up any given night. It makes Ime's incompetence when it comes to running rotations much more detrimental when you can't really count on the few players Ime plans to run into the ground and life or die with.
If they collectively don't miss 10 FT and 15 gimmie shots (my favorite was Sengun sending a wide-open dunk off of the rim down the baseline into the front row, in the air) we're not having this conversation.
Every time I watch Ant play i wonder why so many Rockets fans want to compare him to Jalen. It's not even that he's been the much better player for most of their careers, but also that they clearly are different types of players.
I can handle Jalen being great once every four games but I can't have him being awful the other three. He was great in the second game, awful in the other two. Other players were awful, too, but they don't have people trying to change the story and pretend they had a pretty good game. Amen and Fred were just as bad as Jalen. Alpi was bad but not as bad as those three. Part of the problem is Jalen has a great playoff game and people start posting comparing him and Shai. Shai had ZERO games this year of single digit scoring. The year before he had ONE. And then they say Jalen played like MJ in the second game. Have these people even seen MJ play? If MJ was hot like Jalen he would've scored 55 easy. MJ had ONE game in his entire career where he scored in the single digits before he went to Washington. "I'm a bucket." The same people who praise Jalen when he scores big then act like he's doing fine if he scores 9 points. His job on this team is to score and he's not doing it. Mystical is right in that GS didn't sell out to stop Jalen. They had a second guy rotate over and that effectively stopped Jalen. Next game they will probably mix things up and have Curry shut him down again.
People apply the correct level even keeled criticisms of Green's current limitations and what he needs to develop to overcome these type of defenses that face guard and deny the ball or trap/blitz when he has the ball. Curry hasn't stopped Jalen Green. This is again an inability to read half court defenses and understand what a true iso clear out one on one is. Even non Rocket nba media has analyzed the first game and pointed out that teammates not clearing out prevented him from having true iso one on one situations. Again, people who properly praise and criticize Jalen explain his limitations. I do also. You people just go 100% full send into hetaerism and can't apply the most modicum level of even handedness that even neutral nba analysts give to Jalen Green.
Green needs to grow a pair or the Rockets need to move on. Van Vleet is just a piss poor shooter and an average guard. Those two at the money they’re due is just criminal
Surely Jalen didn't do well in the offense last night, but I wouldn't describe his performance last night as awful. He was doubled all night and got 5 assists. He had done his job to create as many opportunities for his teammates, they just didn't make it. On the defense end, based on the stats from https://www.nba.com/stats/players/d...0612745&DateFrom=04/26/2025&DateTo=04/26/2025 , Jalen was pretty solid at defense, while players like Amen was a liability on both ends. Jalen needs to learn how to deal with being doubled, but overall he wasn't that bad last night.
Where do you guys see him compared to Ant, Booker, Donovan Mitchell or Jaylen Brown when they were in their 4th year? This is obviously the top tier of SG s in the league ATM. So i just wanted to compare and gauge if he has that top tier potential. Also how do we see him compared to another tier - Jordan Poole, Jordan Clarkson, Cam Thomas, Tyler Herro?
Jalen's not moving on to big money, you do realise that right? He's on a 3 year $106 million deal, 35 million a year isn't star money, it's not even particularly high at all for a modern NBA starter. Alpi's the one who got paid to be a star, Green's paid to be a role player, and he's performing like one...
Jalen year 4: 0.092 ws/48, 1.7 VORP, TS was 6% below the league Ant year 4: 0.130 ws/48, 3.7 VORP, TS was 1% below the league Mitchell year 4: 0.167 ws/48, 4.3 VORP, TS was 0% below the league Brown year 4: 0.123 ws/48, 1.4 VORP (57 games, i believe covid shortened), TS was 3% above the league Booker year 4: 0.076 ws/48, 1.7 vorp in 64 games, TS was 4% above the league I don't think anyone except a few fringe extremists would put jalen in those guys level though. Cam thomas is trash, clarkson is just a backup, herro sucked till this season basically, Poole was TRASH in year 4 but he also got assaulted by a teammate so that's not idea.
This is pretty silly. Sengun next season is 21.95% of the cap, 20.95% year after, 19.95 year after. Jalen is 21.55%, 21.16%, 19.24%. They are paid basically exactly the same.
