The “give me Harden over FVV” takes are embarrassing

It's like the basketball universe is enjoying messing with the Houston Rockets....

Harden on the team but going up against an all time great warriors squad.

Harden off the team, and the Rockets are playing a beatable Warriors squad that Harden could have overcame with thia group, but he of course isn't on the team.

Instead we have FVV who did his job last season but this season as time went on, his presence became pointless. I feel like FVV thinks he's Harden out there but he doesn't have the skillset. Always wanting the ball. Nah man, this ain't it. He's gotta go in the off-season. No hard feelings but the team doesn't need him to "lead" them.

 

I know you’re still trying to convince yourself to still believe that ridiculous premise because in this day and age people would rather quadruple down, but it’s not going to fool anyone here

 

Guys being lost when he's not direction rhe offense is why he was a bad signing. If the purpose of paying you is for developing the youngsters, and they can't think without you, then they aren't developed. Congrats you have proven that you are more competent than tank commander Dashen Nix.

 

Harden so far is averaging 21, 5, and 10 on 45/40/83 splits and 59% TS…Harden is taking 16 shots a game

FVV is giving us 11, 4, and 4 on 27/21/100 splits and 39% TS…Fred is taking 14 shots a game

Harden with 2 extra shots a game giving u 10 extra points…along with 6 extra assists

Harden has Zubac averaging 19 ppg on 65% shooting against Denver…meanwhile Sengun is 13-33 from the field the last 2 games and always has to do 5 different low post moves just to get a shot off

 

...but the culture!

 

Rafer Alston output on James Harden money is wild.

 

1 of the most hilarious reasons to try and justify his contract or want him over Harden

 

If the Rockets signed him 2 years ago, he wouldn't be the right guy to have now. That was the entire point of my post.

And I don't really see how the Rockets young core could benefit from Harden taking 30+ shots every game for 2 years.

 

Yeah, we wouldn't have seen the stellar development from JG scoring 7 points and 9 points in game 1 and 3.

 

The number of people not understanding the basic concepts of "rebuilding" on a basketball forum is both extremely hilarious and sad at the same time.

You don't acquire the best player available when you are rebuilding, you acquire the player you think who will mesh the best with the players you drafted and invested for your future.

You don't actually think that the Rockets gave FVV 2y/80M$ over Harden because they believed FVV was more likely to lead the Rockets to NBA titles, right?

 

I really would like to hear your theory of how Harden taking 30+ shots with a 30+% USG Rate for 2 seasons would be better for the development of the Rockets young core.

Do you think that teams in a rebuild not acquiring superstars is a coincidence?

 

Harden hasn’t tried to take 30 shots a game or have 30% usage since he left Houston…even with Kawhi out this season he didn’t do that

y’all say anything on here no matter how senseless

Harden took a whopping 3 more shots a game than FVV this season, and the Clippers needed his scoring more than ever with Kawhi missing over half the year and no Paul George

 

Fvv leadership and developmental ability are greatly exaggerated. Floor raising and playmaking ability also nonexistent

Amen and sengun cant still shoot 3.
Jabari got demoted to bench
Green is inconsistent as fk
Reed and cam arent able to play

Our offense is slow as fk and nonexistent. And when our youngsters struggle, he right there with dem shtting the bed. He's getting paid a sht ton of money but "it a player option so it's fine".

Fvv bootlickers just doubling down on this sht player.

 

You do realize that FVV is not personal trainer of any of these players, right?

He was signed to set the tables for young players on offense, and set the tone on defense.

FVV has done wonders for this team in terms of ball safety, and transition defense for 2 years.

The Rockets literally had the worst transition defense of all time before FVV and Brooks were signed. And they lead the league in transition defense a year later.

The Rockets were dead last in TO% in the league before his signing, and had the 7th best TO% a year later.

He has 2nd best AST/TO in the league in his 1st year, and 3rd best AST/TO in his 2nd year.

Nobody above 60 iq doesn't care about FVV's individual impact or shooting splits because he'll not be here when the Rockets start contending for titles anyway.

Is he overpaid? Obviously. Did he do his job in the 2 years he spent in the Rockets jersey? Probably much better than the Rockets FO even expected.

Just be grateful you had him during those dark rebuilding years, upgrade his position next season, and move on.

 

less than rafer.

 

when has harden EVER taken 30 shots a game ? that shows how little you actually have watched harden/the rockets

he's known for being able to get a lot of points WITHOUT taking a lot of shots. he's not some allen iverson type chucker. jesus christ

 

This idea of Harden taking too many shots is absolutely hilarious because of how misguided it actually is.

Harden took 11 shots the other night against Denver in a loss, probably to the detriment of his team. One of his biggest issues is being too passive at times in big spots when his team needs him to be aggressive.

The thought that Harden would be taking shots away from others on the Rockets is actually comical.

 

Floating this idea out... Instead of Harden, we might benefit more from trying to entice CP3 to return. Started all 82 games last year and averaged 7.4 assists. His scoring is down, but he still shot .377 from three. He's a UFA this summer, and the Spurs only paid him $10M last year. Maybe he'd be interested in getting a title now instead of waiting for a couple more year until the Spurs are contenders. Best of all, Green would benefit from playing with a great PG for a change, and Sheppard would learn a lot more from playing with CP3 than with Harden.