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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. Space Ghost

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    Thanks for making my point. Bravo. Nobody cares
     
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    Thanks for proving my point…. You got your Twitter marching orders to distract from Trump’s failed trade war by posting about immigration and patriot act in the tariff thread.

    And Elon didn’t even pay you a million dollars to be a stooge, you’re doing for free!!! What a guy!!!
     
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    While @dobro1229 was typing the above, Donald Trump changed his tariff plan three times. The King penguins on Heard Island must pay their fair share!!!
     
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  5. Rocket River

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    If I were China I wouldn't . . .what is their incentive to do so
    I suspect they may ask for more than they were getting originally
    That's how capitalism works right?

    Rocket River
     
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    Trump or Nico Harrison whose worse at trades?
     
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  7. Rocket River

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    Let's see what happens in May . . .. I think we can have it go back even further

    Rocket River
     
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  8. Rocket River

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    I agree with you

    Rocket River
     
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    https://www.axios.com/2025/04/23/trump-economy-tariffs-china-powell
    Trump softens tariff tone amid empty shelves warning, market slump

    President Trump got a scare from CEOs and markets on Monday. On Tuesday, he blunted some of his sharpest threats — signaling a softer stance on China and retreating from fiery rhetoric targeting the Fed.

    Why it matters: The president is resolute in his goal of reshaping the economy. But he's sensitive to the movement of the markets and the pleas of powerful corporate leaders and investors who fear the worst from his sweeping efforts.

    Zoom in: Monday was a tough day for Trump's goal of reshaping the global economy.
    • The CEOs of three of the nation's biggest retailers — Walmart, Target and Home Depot — privately warned him that his tariff and trade policy could disrupt supply chains, raise prices and empty shelves, according to sources familiar with the meeting.
    • "The big box CEOs flat out told him [Trump] the prices aren't going up, they're steady right now, but they will go up. And this wasn't about food. But he was told that shelves will be empty," an administration official familiar with the meeting told Axios.
    • Another official briefed on the meeting said the CEOs told Trump disruptions could become noticeable in two weeks.
    • While that was happening, financial markets were slumping — stocks, bonds, the dollar — as investors panicked about Trump's latest threats to oust Fed chair Jerome Powell and step on the central bank's independence.
    Then on Tuesday, he turned the dial down.
    • His Treasury secretary, and then his press secretary, and then Trump himself all indicated that trade talks with China were imminent, starting on a good foot, and would result in a deal with much lower tariffs than the current 145%.
    • Trump then told reporters in the Oval Office that he had "no intention" of firing Powell, even though his top economic adviser said last week the White House was studying the details of doing exactly that.
    • Markets, having gotten what they wanted, promptly rallied hard. Stocks soared and the dollar surged.
    The intrigue: White House officials bristle at the notion of softness from Trump. One senior official said the president was just showing he's ready to make a deal and that he's "optimistic we can move forward."
    • "This is what Donald Trump does. He leads with leverage," the official said. "He gets people to the table. China has expressed interest in negotiation. And the president has made clear that if they play ball, he'll play ball, too."
    Between the lines: Trump's shift in tone comes at the same time as a shift in Trump's orbit.
    • Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has been exerting more influence in recent weeks, reportedly getting in Trump's ear — to the point of rushing the Oval Office when other advisers aren't around — to get him to ease off for the sake of markets.
    The big picture: For the first time since he entered political life, polls showmost voters disapprove of Trump's handling of the economy.
    • Inflation — which he claims is nonexistent — is still a little hot, growth is slowing, and manufacturers are losing confidence.
    • Recession isn't inevitable, but it looks a lot more likely now than it did even a couple of months ago.
    • Around the world, the "sell America" trade is taking hold, as investors start to realize decades of orthodoxy about U.S. assets as safe havens may no longer be the case.
     
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  12. Invisible Fan

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    There is no proper thread for this. Should we continue chips export ban? Probably not the way they are now, but maybe it's too little too late.

    https://thechinaacademy.org/how-china-woos-u-s-tech-giants-from-trump/
    China’s Diamond Chip Breakthrough Woos U.S. Tech Giants From Trump
    [​IMG]Chinese Premier Li Qiang shakes hands with Apple CEO Tim Cook on March 23 in Beijing


    On March 23, Beijing welcomed 750 foreign delegates, including 86 executives from multinational corporations across 21 countries. The delegation featured leaders from prominent U.S. and European tech and semiconductor companies such as Apple, Siemens, Samsung, Qualcomm, and SK Hynix, with John Neuffer, president of the U.S. Semiconductor Industry Association, also present.

    This gathering appears paradoxical given Bloomberg’s recent disclosure that the Trump administration is drafting stricter semiconductor export controls while urging allied nations to intensify restrictions on China’s chip industry. What drives Western tech giants to maintain engagement with China?

    First, these executives attended the 2025 China Development Forum – a premier platform for direct dialogue with Chinese policymakers. The forum’s unveiling of China’s annual development agenda makes it essential for global investors. Second, and perhaps more crucially, China’s breakthrough in a pivotal chip technology addressing AI’s most pressing challenges offers compelling motivation.

    The AI industry’s relentless pursuit of higher computing power and advanced chips has hit a roadblock: overheating. As transistors in chips become increasingly dense, heat dissipation has emerged as a bottleneck. In November 2024, Reuters reports revealed overheating issues in NVIDIA’s Blackwell AI chips and server racks. By January 2025, unresolved thermal problems—causing reduced computing power and melted interfaces—forced Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and Meta to slash orders for new chips and revert to older models. The Information reveals that NVIDIA reportedly pushed suppliers to redesign components, but solutions remain elusive. Silicon-based materials, it seems, have reached their thermal limits.

    Fortunately, China’s new synthetic diamond technology can help.

    Diamond is a more ideal material for the semiconductor industry. Its thermal conductivity is 13 times that of silicon and four times that of silicon carbide. Chips made with diamond substrates could drastically lower operating temperatures. A report by China’s Kaiyuan Securities estimates that “diamond cooling” technology could save data centres millions in cooling costs annually. Though the diamond thermal solutions market is currently valued at just $50 million, it is projected to soar to $15.2 billion by 2030.

    The US is also taking notice. In 2024, a startup company called Akash Systems secured $68.2 million in government support for diamond-cooled GPU development. However, given China’s 70% global share in synthetic diamond production, much of this investment may ultimately benefit Chinese suppliers.

    Traditional chemical vapour deposition (CVD) methods struggled to produce cost-effective, large-scale diamond films with the required smoothness. A December 2024 breakthrough by researchers from Peking University, Southern University of Science and Technology, and the University of Hong Kong – published in Nature – demonstrated the economical production of ultra-thin, smooth diamond films, enabling industrial-scale applications. Moreover, Hangzhou Jiaren Semiconductor’s March 2025 launch of the world’s first 8-inch gallium nitride wafer underscores China’s progress in next-gen semiconductors.

    China’s breakthroughs in next-generation semiconductor technologies demonstrate that the nation has evolved beyond merely following global tech trends, emerging as an innovative pioneer. How did China transform from grappling with U.S. chip sanctions in 2016 to leading next-generation semiconductor innovation? Professor Wang Xiangsui identifies divergent development philosophies as the key differentiator.

    The U.S. tech development is “capital and AI hype-driven.” With over half of U.S. wealth funnelled into seven tech giants like NVIDIA and Microsoft, the major hardware and software suppliers for OpenAI, how many Americans can really afford GPT-4.5? However, as long as they can produce numerically stronger chips, AI benchmarks and financial statements, Wall Street will continue to reward them. This obsession has neglected real-world accessibility, applications and diversified semiconductor use cases.

    Conversely, China’s “practical application-driven” approach addresses concrete challenges in aerospace, EVs, and 5G infrastructure. Engineers from multiple key factors can provide real demands for chip development. For example, Huawei began developing diamond chip technology in 2023 to address heat dissipation in 5G base stations and low-orbit satellites, filing patents with the Harbin Institute of Technology. The reason why China decided to develop 5G networks and satellites, is also based on the production, entertainment and security needs of the Chinese people.

    While Chinese tech firms trail U.S. counterparts in market value, their emphasis on affordability, energy efficiency, and real-world applicability offers valuable insights. This pragmatic orientation explains why China has become the 2025 destination for global tech leadership – not merely as a market, but as an emerging knowledge hub shaping semiconductor innovation.
     
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  13. Invisible Fan

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    Most (rich) Americans think of Gallium Nitride as those cheaper and smaller power bricks for their laptop that can still charge 100W...

    https://en.clickpetroleoegas.com.br...s-com-diamante-para-desbancar-estados-unidos/

    China begins to create semiconductor chips with DIAMOND to displace the United States

    3/7/2024
    With a focus on overtaking the United States, a team of scientists and engineers from China, linked to the largest supplier of electronic warfare weapons in the country, has achieved a breakthrough in semiconductor production that could significantly improve the performance of high-power microwave devices, radars and detection devices. It is a new technology for semiconductor chips using diamond.

    The secret to China surpassing the United States is the diamond, also known as the “definitive semiconductor”. The process is complex, but China appears to have found yet another solution to the semiconductor shortage generated by restrictions on the export of advanced technology from the United States.

    Researchers from the 46th Research Institute of China Electronics Technology Corporation (CETC) claim to have developed gallium nitride (GaN) semiconductors with a diamond substrate that have a power density 30% higher than any existing product.

    If these diamond semiconductor chips, also called fourth-generation semiconductors, were widely adopted, they could bolster the PLA's capabilities in communications bandwidth, radar range and electromagnetic suppression, which could give it a decisive advantage in warfare. electronics, according to information from the SCMP.

    According to the China team, led by Wang Yingmin, chief expert at the institute, in an article published in the Chinese academic journal Semiconductor Technology on January 31, these new devices have superior performance, including high power, high frequency and ultra-low power consumption.

    While other nations are still struggling with this diamond semiconductor chip technology, China has even resolved the problems on the production line.

    According to the team, a technological breakthrough was achieved by growing diamonds directly on GaN in the industrial process. It is worth mentioning that China already has a dominant position in the global diamond industry with 95% of global production. Last year alone, Chinese factories produced more than 16 billion synthetic diamonds.

    Once considered a rare and luxurious gem, the diamond has undergone a remarkable transformation into a profitable industrial material in China. According to the SCMP, a rough laboratory diamond now costs just $1 in some chinese online stores. This drop in price opened up space for the application of diamonds in the chip industry in China, potentially surpassing the United States.

    Diamond has several properties that make it the ideal material for high-power microwave semiconductor chips, such as very high thermal conductivity, which means it can dissipate heat quickly and prevent overheating. It also has great resistance to wear, allowing it to withstand high electrical and mechanical stresses – in addition to a wide bandgap, allowing it to operate at frequencies without suffering signal loss.

    Challenges encountered by scientists in China
    Despite everything, using semiconductor chips with GaN diamonds is not so simple. Diamond and gallium nitride have different crystalline structures and thermal expansion coefficients, generating high stresses and defects at the interface between the two materials.

    Researchers in China say they have solved this problem using a plasma-assisted chemical vapor deposition method, which allows the direct growth of diamond on gallium nitride with high quality and low voltage.

    Wang's team says the work was supported by several national research and development projects, including the 863 program, which focuses on developing strategic high-tech technologies.

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    China's export ban list includes: Synthetic diamonds, Gallium, Graphite and many more!
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    Trump is a certifiable moron and his followers are as well, anyone that thinks Tariffs can work, in a day in which we don't have unique products isn't working with a full deck.

    Instead of our soybeans they will buy Brazil's.....as an example, we are just screwing ourselves with Trump's policies.


    DD
     
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    Great to see that Ron Vara, aka Pete Navarro, is losing his influence over Trump
     
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    Is he the worst economic adviser to president in the last 100 years?
     
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