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Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Apr 14, 2025.

  1. dobro1229

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    Great. Then you should have no problem bringing that evidence to a judge, and letting the legal process play itself out to put him away legally.

    The fact that you guys want to avoid the legal process which allows you to avoid ever having present evidence tells us all you need to know about how strong you really feel about a case like this.

    The Supreme Court ruled he is here legally therefore he is due rights under the Constitution. They ruled that NINE to ZERO. If you think he is MS13... great. Prosecute him and prove it. Otherwise you guys are just chickensh$t cowards.
     
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    Bukele LOVES consolidating power and he will do anything it takes to do that.

    Bukele hates the gangs so much that he paid the leaders off.

    Bukele also hates due process.


    In fairness to Bukele, El Salvador was already an incredibly corrupt country with a poor record of human rights -- so his lack of transparency and corruption is nothing new, and at least under him you can walk the streets without being killed by MS-13, you just have to keep the government happy.
     
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  4. dmoneybangbang

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    Great.... shouldn't be an issue to prove that under oath.
     
  5. Salvy

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    Hol up, a U.S court can determine and interpret Salvadorian law for crimes he commited as a MS13 gang member in El Salvador?

    We know that the only thing he did here was beat his wife but his association with MS13 and that he broke American law by entering this country illegally is why he got deported.

    Man, this is an insane reach on nearly every aspect y'all are trying to spin this...

    If on trial here he would still get deported per deportation order and gang related activity not to mention he was arrested with two ms13 gang members...

    Would y'all prefer if he got brought back, got deported again and the Bukele can pick him up at the airport?
     
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  6. Space Ghost

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    This is what happens when an entire generation gets brainwashed into blindly trusting the establishment. They have no idea why they are adamantly defending a position, comparing the situation to the Civil War by calling it a constitutional crisis. They will spend days and weeks defending a terrible position when they could instead do a little research and find opportunities to help American citizens whose constitutional rights truly have been violated.

    Ultimately this has absolutely nothing to do with constitutional rights and everything about dunking on Trump.

    The sad thing is Trump knows this and uses it to constantly put them in high anxiety states. Imagine going home to your little community and not giving a **** about it and instead worrying about the alleged rights of foreign gang bangers.
     
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    Ultimately this has everything to do with Constitutional Rights and you have to say otherwise to deflect. You mad a generation that understands due process?

    I keep hearing all these claims about Garcia..... but y'all are too cowardly to prove it in court..... and too cowardly to actually pass legislation for you to deport all these folks.
     
  9. Kemahkeith

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    Just for reference who is y'all and you?
    Second person plural pronouns are tricky.

    I often refer to the Astros in the form of we, even though I do not own or play for the team.
     
  10. dobro1229

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    You sound like you are scared to prosecute the guy. It’s not what I think. It’s what the law says and the Supreme Court ruled it’s illegal to deport him without due process.

    If you really weren’t a scared wuss, you’d want to bring him back, prosecute him, and allow the rule of law to determine that he is the threat you believe he is.

    The big question is why are you and other MAGA cultists such wusses? If Trump and the DOJ prosecuted him legally and he is as bad as you say he is, why wouldn’t you want to throw that in people’s faces??

    Just don’t understand why MAGA people are such pu$$ies. Afraid of presenting evidence to a judge. Wow. That’s beta male if I’ve ever seen it.
     
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  11. Salvy

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    They just can't seem to stop going deeper and deeper into clown world without understanding that their opinion of what people care about is not generally popular.

    This Democrat party flooded the country with illegal immigrants and lost the election for it, now this very same Democrat party is showing that not only are they willing to allow mass illegal immigration but they will also fight til the very end to keep those illegal immigrants in this country regardless of crimes committed in their home countries.

    And to top it all off they actually think this is a priority for people in this country. You would think they would learn from their mistakes, try to slide a little more to the center so that by 2028 they can make an honest challenge with common sense politics but nope. They rather get more and more radical for more and more r****ded causes...
     
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    Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but believe this is yet another story that would've been huge had it happened in the 1980s. In fact I can almost "hear" Dan Rather voice sharing the details...

    Yet somehow today in Trump's America, not only do most people not give two *****, there's a large number of people that seem to enjoy reading stories like it (as evidenced by the talking heads at Fox and the shitty people here in this very thread).

    SMH, we are so lost.
     
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    I will use small words and short sentences. I will type this slowly.

    You: Democrats want Garcia to be brought back and made a US citizen.

    Liberals: Democrats want Garcia to be brought back and given due process.
     
  14. Salvy

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    You: Democrats want Garcia to be brought back and given due process

    American Department of Justice: Kilmar is an MS13 gang member and needs to be deported
     
  15. Salvy

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    Prosecute him for what? He was here illegally and had a deportation order.... You want to prosecute him for crimes in El Salvador? Are you being serious?

    Aight, lets do this.... Lets say Kilmar gets brought back and a Maryland court finds him not guilty of any gang related crimes in The U.S. However Kilmar is in this country illegally and his MS13 gang affiliation warrants an investigation and trial in El Salvador. Does he get deported or do you want the U.S to protect this illegal individual that could be fleeing his crimes in another country?
     
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    Due process, due process, due process.

    U cant pick and choose when to support or follow the constitution.

    Serial killers and rapists were given due process, it's not that hard to give Garcia his due process and deport him if he has ties to m13.
     
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    Meant “yall” all the way around. And “yall” refers to folks that want to ignore due process
     
  18. dmoneybangbang

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    Then what was the mistake that the Trump admin admitted to?

    As the law states, even illegal immigrants are given due process.

    If the evidence is so clear, then present in court, under oath. If y’all are too scared then go to church
     
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    Federal Judge: Prove it.

    You, I and the federal judge. One of these is not like the others.
     
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  20. dobro1229

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    Again you sound scared to prove anything in court as the Supreme Court has ordered the Trump regime to do.

    Dude you are on a side that not even know libtards Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas were willing to stretch to just because you are too afraid of the evidence.

    Just pathetically terrified for some reason. I mean most of you guys would spend 400 dollars of your own money to win an argument with any one of pro democracy posters on clutch fans yet you are petrified at the thought of the Trump administration using 400 dollars out of the DHS budget to put him on a plane back to the US so Trump can be operating within the rule of law according to the rule of law??

    What is it about the law and the constitution that has you guys running scared like school girls??
     
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