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Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Apr 14, 2025.

  1. Rileydog

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    At this point, I kind of feel bad for you. You are on so many ignore lists that you are getting no responses.

    You have the intellectual capability of a used diaper. There, I responded to you.
     
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  2. Salvy

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    I'd care a little more if this was coming from someone who wasn't dumb enough to support an MS13 gang member deported to his home country..... Still I hope you can get through this painful moment where the love of your life is locked up.....

     
  3. Nook

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    Right - and that is a big part of why the SCOTUS has been careful in their dealings and rulings. They also miscalculated when they catered to their politics and let Trump get off earlier.

    Alito and Thomas would support a Trump takeover of the country - the others not as much.
     
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  4. Rileydog

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    I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed this response to my statement that you have the intellectual capability of a wet diaper. Perfect. 10/10.

    I’m a little sad you didn’t express any appreciation for me responding to one of your posts.
     
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  5. Salvy

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    You figured out how to copy & paste... Good for you, Kilmar would be proud.
     
  6. Nook

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    First - of course the Supreme Court doesn’t have executive authority. It is irrelevant - there is a separation of powers and the Executive is to respect the rulings of the Court. Trump isn’t doing that - which is why it is a usurpation of power.

    As for the SCOTUS ruling - it wasn’t vague, it told the President to help facilitate the return of Garcia.

    This was a very low hoop to jump and Trump is intentionally being defiant by denying he has asked for the return of Garcia. He is giving the SCOTUS the finger- likely to see what the public response and the Courts response will be.

    This is a big deal
     
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  7. Salvy

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  8. Nook

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    This is REALLY stretching it.

    The Court was very clear, the Trump administration was to facilitate the return of Garcia and to ensure his case is handled the same as if he had not been wrongly deported.

    The President hasn’t done this very simple thing- and they gave him wide latitude in their ruling and he hasn’t even met the requirement of attempting to get Garcia back.

    The SCOTUS remanded the case back to the lower court for clarification on the deference granted to the executive branch on the issue of foreign affairs.
     
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  9. snowconeman22

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    We should stop paying him to say no .
     
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  10. Space Ghost

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    You might want to do some research. Bukele hates the gangs.
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    it really isn't. Biden administration was told no regarding student loan forgivingness yet the continued to find way around it.

    And everyone keeps ignoring the obvious. Bukele said no.

    This thread serves as an example why our country is in a paralysis and why we continue to lose ground on so many important issues. We would rather bicker endlessly over something that is completely uresolvable.
     
  12. Amiga

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    Why should he? The SCOTUS 9-0 ruling is the reason.

    p.s. There was no due process. If the State is so convinced of their "facts", bring him back, give him due process, and it should be a slam-dunk case to deport him again.
     
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  13. ROXTXIA

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    Abrego Garcia had been granted asylum status. So................keep trying.
     
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  14. No Worries

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    Trump by dictum made Garcia The All Great and Powerful Terrorist Leader of both MS13 and Tren De Aragua. Trump then had no choice but to revoke Garcia's status and deport him immediately.
     
  15. Salvy

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    He was also granted a deportation order and was confirmed MS13.... Asylum has been a loophole for illegal immigrants for many many years.... MS13 no longer exists in El Salvador... He can now go back...
     
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    He hasn't been confirmed as MS13. The Trump administration is pushing the narrative hard. If it's true, then show the original paperwork for his case. Which they don't seem to have. They already altered a picture of the Senator and Obrego sitting down with "margaritas", so I don't entirely trust them not to doctor photos.

    Anyway, whomever admitted to the administration's clerical error was furloughed for telling the truth. All of this sturm und drang will likely be for naught. Trump would never honor the original asylum issuance.
     
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    He was found twice to be MS13 by the U.S... What more confirmation do you need? Not even Bukele wants to release this guy into El Salvador...

    This is a crazy timeline for Democrats that will come back to bite them in 2028... It is such an odd battle... Let's assume Democrats are right, there is no confirmation he was MS13... There is also no confirmation that he wasn't, he had asylum? There was also a deportation order... He was a good loving husband and father? His wife didn't think so before this whole ordeal.

    In 2028, Democrats will be remembered for pushing this matter. People already voted for better immigration policy and deportations. Yet Democrats think that fighting tooth and nail for a guy that could very well be every bit guilty and NOT a citizen!!!

    If the issue was not that he was deported but that he was thrown into prison it really is Bukeles call what to do with his citizen... You can't force another country into doing what you want with their citizens over political interest. It's absurd ..
     
  19. Amiga

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    I'll jump in here to address your infamous, and almost always wrong, both-sidism.

    There's a fundamental difference between what happened with student loan forgiveness and the Garcia situation.

    When the Supreme Court struck down Biden's broad loan forgiveness plan, the administration complied with the ruling by immediately stopping that specific program. They then developed new approaches using different legal authorities and initiated proper regulatory processes to pursue alternative paths. This is working within the legal system, not defying it.

    The Trump administration, by contrast, has made no good-faith effort to facilitate Garcia’s return as ordered. That’s not exploring legal alternatives, it’s directly ignoring a specific court order.

    Finding new legal pathways after a court says "you can't do it this way" is completely different from refusing to make genuine efforts to comply with a court ruling. That's the distinction you're intentionally missing.
     
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  20. Jugdish

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    Another bullseye. Imagine giving criminals due process.
     

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