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Cam Smith: The Aircraft Carrier

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Htown Legend, Feb 25, 2025.

  1. raining threes

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    Yeah, never question a managers decisions.
     
  2. raining threes

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    Chas is instinctive and a better RF than Cam? What balls has Cam not gotten too that Chas would've gotten too? Plus Cam has a cannon for an arm in RF. Something Chas can only dream of having.
     
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    He sucked
     
  4. Marshall Bryant

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    This is reasonable for some and inconceivable for others. Our examples are Alvarez who saw it as reasonable and Tucker who did not. Some say it was betting on yourself and tie it to confidence and others see the chance to secure their future financial security.

    That's where discussions, whether in a contract window or not, need to be routine and probably are. I don't think the Alvarez contract came out of the blue. He had experienced both success and injury risk and had a different risk/reward perspective than a guy like Tucker.

    The agents just see the financial picture as getting huge contracts for 80% of their clients and just walking away from the other 20% like marketers do those who hang up. They just move on from the consequences without concern. But they do listen to their clients when THEY choose early financial security as a priority.
     
  5. Marshall Bryant

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    There's nothing wrong with questions. But conclusions based on incomplete information are always dicey.
     
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  6. Marshall Bryant

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    I agree, but add he's younger and still at an age a new position is not overwhelming.

    For example, Biggio's move from all star C to 2nd base when he was younger was easiER in my opinion than his move from 2nd Base to the outfield because he was older and his body and mind were less adaptable.

    I don't even know if he agrees or not, but this is my perspective as a fan who has matured and lost adaptability. I know my ability to become a Hockey Fan when the old Aeros were here no longer exists, even if Houston gets a new NHL team. I've just gotten set in my ways.

    ps - I'll just share something that made me laugh. I was recalling how as a kid, I could IMAGINE outperforming a pro at their game. Now I imagine dying on the field just going out to start the inning because I tripped over the baseline..
     
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  7. raining threes

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    You're never going to have complete info as a fan.

    My general philosophy is most of the everyday players need to be playing 140- 145 games.
     
  8. IdStrosfan

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    Players are people and have all kinds of experiences, thoughts, and goals.

    Yordan had grown up in Cuba, got $2M 6 years before signing the extension. Because was in his 4th year of making MLB minimum and had injury issues, including missing, essentially, and entire season.

    It makes perfect sense that he wanted security.

    Tucker signed for $4M after growing up in Tampa Florida. He has an older brother who made the MLB and made a decent living, even playing over seas, despite having only a fraction of the talent he has (brothers absolutely know and note that). Until half way through his 10th season in pro ball, he had no injury scares or issues and that one was more fluke than risky.

    He was in a better situation to bet on himself.
     
  9. AkeemTheDreem86

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    Great point. Logical despite the discomfort. Good work.
    What's the opposite of 'great'?

    Is not considering someone else's experience as something with which one can, in any way, possibly agree or disagree the epitome of arrogance, borderlining on dehumanizing? Sort of a gross slippery slope there.

    Anyway, Go Stros.
     
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  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    There is no way of knowing Cam's situation.

    With Kyle, I knew there was no way he wasn't going to free agency. He's an MVP candidate, young and relatively healthy. It would take a Vlad type deal for Kyle to sign an extension and the Astros were never going to offer it. I think if we offered a Bregman or Alvarez type extension in the next two season, we could possibly get him to sign. There are lots of things that could happen over the next five years.

    I think Brown could easily see himself as Gerrit Cole or Verlander, but pitching contracts are seldom as long as fielding contracts. Cole's deal being the exception.
     
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