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Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Apr 14, 2025.

  1. Space Ghost

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    He is not a US citizen. He is a citizen of El Salvador. The US does not have jurisdiction at this point. The complaint is with El Salvador. Take it up with them.
     
  2. HTM

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    That's a big contingency.

    Most Salvadorans CURRENTLY agree with Bukele because basic levels of security are more important that the denial of a small % of the populations civil liberties.

    All societies recognize this.

    The United States does this.

    In times of emergency this country WILL suspend your civil liberties and the measures taken in El Salvador were clearly necessary to establish public safety and order.

    I'll leave the prophesying about the future to you. I don't know what's going to happen.

    My understanding is the murder rate in El Salvador since Bukele took office has gone from 4000 a year dead to 80. That's 3900 persons x 6 = 23,400 lives saved.

    What about the rights of the people to not live in a gang ridden criminal hellscape? What about the rights of the people to not be murdered? Sexuall assaulted? Extorted?

    No leftists are willing to talk about their rights. Tell me about their rights.

    No CHANCE anyone on this board would choose to live in 2015 El Salvador over 2025 El Salvador. To pretend otherwise would just be a complete lie.
     
  3. No Worries

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    You only actively condemn one party, which is a bit odd given your both-siderism streak.

    It is just like you are a in-the-closet Republican.

    Just like.
     
  4. No Worries

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    The US federal courts disagree with your in depth legal analysis. I hope that your feefees are not hurt too bad.
     
  5. Space Ghost

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    lol you think the federal court has jurisdiction in every country on this planet? True idiot.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    I already explained this to you. Republican party died. Its the party of the populist at the moment. It has no real identity.

    Meanwhile, you keep claiming your the party of inclusion and acceptance. Anti-war and peace. Democrats have become the party of hypocrites and quickly heading the way of the republicans. Angry bigots who hate anyone who disagrees with them or refuses to lockstep and identify with them. Exactly like the neo-nazi's.
     
  7. No Worries

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    A federal judge ordered a flight to El Salvador to not take off or turn back around which the Trump Admin ignored. Criminal/civil contempt charges are now in flight.

    The federal judge found that the government accusations were sketch. More “due process” concerns. Trump Admin appears to be playing fast and loose with the facts … and did not want to be slowed down by judicial review.
     
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  8. Salvy

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    Bro please..... The brain gymnastics are not worth it, this guys is an illegal immigrant. He married an American citizen but there aren't married rights citizenship. He still has to go through an entire process where she can help him get legal and even then depending on the situation it may be necessary that he goes back to El Salvador for a period of time and enter legally once all his documentation has gone through, accepted and so on.

    Him being married means nothing, its like saying Draya is an NBA player because she is with Jalen Green....

    I told ya'll it was a terrible hill to die on.... Move on.....
     
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  9. No Worries

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    This is some make believe reality you have created and forced on every Democrat.

    You be you.

    Democrats fit under a really big tent. Unlike the Rs, the Ds rarely agree in lockstep on policy.

    There has been some purity police of late in the Ds. Like the Ds who want a radical new Palestine policy but turn around and vote for Trump to punish the establishment Ds. I just see the purity police as little more than just a very vocal minority … which the right echo chamber blows out of proportion for their political gain.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

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    Now it turns out that Abrego Garcia had MS13 tattooed on his hand! Do Democrats want to bring a non-citizen gang member who beat his wife back into this country? The American liberal is just so naive and gullible...
     
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  11. rockbox

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    Regardless of who he is. I want due process, checks and balance and rule of law. Not some F'er who does whatever he wants on a whim.

    You know, the stuff that is in the constitution.
     
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  12. El_Conquistador

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    Nah, if you are being honest, you just want to damage Trump. That's it. If you wanted to defend the constitution, you'd have much different views on free speech, gun rights, the electoral college, the treatment of J6 political prisoners, COVID rules, etc, etc.

    Democrats are now fully embracing the Constitution. I've seen it all. Their mental gymnastics and twisting themselves into pretzels to try to do damage Trump is entertaining! Such hypocrites...


    GOOD DAY
     
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  13. Rileydog

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    unconvincing deflection. All Trump has to do is tell Bukakke to send Garcia back. Which you freely admit is true. Look no further than my sig, you disingenuous loser. Trump has no intention of telling Bukakke to send Garcia back and is intentionally flouting the Supreme Court ruling.
     
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  14. Space Ghost

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    This is what TDS gets you. Irrational thinking.

    It's laughably stupid how Democrats are so predictable.

    A Democrat US senator flys all the way to El Salvador to protect the rights of a family man gang banger. And there are some here who demanded he be returned and given citizenship.

    Party over country. Criminal rights over victims rights.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    You're legit stupid. Nobody wants him back. No Amercans. Not Trump. Not Bukele.

    Further you actually believe the SCOTUS has executive authority. You obviously never took US gov ... or failed it.
     
  16. rockbox

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    I don't even know why I even waste my time with you after all these years. Not even worth my time.
     
  17. Rileydog

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    You’re mad because I made you dance. That’s never gonna change.

    Incorrect that no Americans want him back. His wife is an American citizen and she says she wants him back. Then again, maybe she is just another Mexican to you. There are plenty of other Americans who want him back to stand trial before a federal judge. I can’t help you since you never took US government and your dumb ass sure as hell didn’t go to law school.
     
  18. juicystream

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    We've reached the constitutional crisis. Executive branch can disregard the courts if Congress won't convict. Trump has pardon power, and SC already says he can't be charged for official duties. Hopefully we wake up and realize how fragile it all is, even if the stakes are relatively minor right now.
     
  19. Salvy

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    You should go down to El Salvador and marry him also, now he will have a wife and a citizen husband that is worried sick about him. Bring him home RiLeyDawg

     
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