Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

Why would Trump demand his return if he was here illegally?

 

Okay…. Do two wrongs make a right?

And remember Lincoln was a Republican…. Teehee

 

We pride ourself in being a nation that give folks the right to a fair trial, innocent before proven guility but let's just throw all of that out the window bc hes not an American citizen

 

Things like due process….

Why are yall so scared to go through the court? It’s almost like you have something to hide…. Typical Christian liars…

 

Almost! Man, we are so close to simple answers to simple questions!

I asked you if Trump calls Bukakke and asks him to release Garcia back to the US, wouldn’t Bukakke do exactly that? Well, maybe this one is my fault because I posed it as a scenario, rather than a direct question. Which then lets you change the scenario. So this one is on me. Chalk that up to being out of private practice for too long. Poor excuse I know.

I’ll ask a simple question: is it your position that Bukakke would not return Garcia to the custody of the US if Trump asked him to do so?

Simple enough, no?

 

I'm just wondering why you guys keep acting like we are stupid, and lying to our faces.

HE WAS NOT HERE ILLEGALLY

You know who agrees with that statement.... THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT .... who ruled NINE to zero that he is under the US jurisdiction, and should be given due process.

Maybe he is due to be deported. Maybe he's a bad man. Maybe he's a wife beater. Maybe he's secretly the head of ISIS AND MS-13.

But you know what... we do NOT know that because there has been no evidence provided in court, he was not given due process, and is under the US jurisdiction, and it would be illegal for the executive branch to send him to an El Salvador prison without due process as confirm again.... BY THE US SUPREME COURT in a NONE to 0 decision.

Have like an ounce of respect for the people you are talking to here and stop lying to our face about something so easily disproven.

 

It’s all the same people….

The same people who lied about the election…

The same people who lied about measles….

The same people who lied about crime…..

 

A U.S. court granted Abrego Garcia temporary protected status in 2019. Garcia had a legal status.

 

It's not about Garcia's due process, imo, as much as it's about DHS not following our own rules and the executive branch being proud of it. We've already had many prisoners from El Salvador returned to the US because we accidently sent people they didn't agree to take (women and wrong nationalities).

In addition to facilitating Garcia's return (we could stop payments, add payments, or just even ask), I'm okay with a variety of other remedies. Ask for his release from CECOT into El Salvador general since he was mistakenly deported as part of a gang roundup. They could ask for his transfer to a 3rd country. They could even pay his wife money. Anything, do anything to show that we follow our own rules.

 

What a disingenuous argument. What Trump did is both illegal and immoral. Do you deny this?

Trump and the Republicans have illegally sent a legal resident to a concentration camp. This is truly indefensible, yet here you are.

I would be ashamed if I somehow managed to twist reality enough to convince myself this is okay.

 

FIFY.

 

It's absolutely about due process. The admin isn't speed running these type of deportations specifically to a foreign concentration camp because national security is in imminent danger. Garcia isn't some individual so dangerous the US has to speed run a process to send him to CECOT.

The entire purpose of this is to see what the admin can get away with and eventually attempts to do this with citizens.

You need to ask yourself why is this administration expending so much political capital on some random people with no criminal record.

 

Soooo.
Those who work at McDonalds are considered lesser humans.
Got it.

 

I don't think what Lincoln did was wrong.

 

Lincoln suspended civil liberties because normal judicial processes could not adequately cope with or address the situation placed before him.

Normal judicial processes have proven themselves inadequate of addressing the illegal immigration crisis in this country.

 

Normal judicial processes are clearly incapable of coping with enforcing the immigration laws of this country.

So much so most posters in here would simply tell you to "ignore it, it's impossible to remedy."

When faced with such extraordinary circumstances, extraordinary remedies are not beyond the pale.

 

I do have one question on this and it not about his legality of being here.

My question, if he WAS part of MS 13 how is he not a member now. I thought once you are a member its for life. Like the Mafia or the bloods.
I thought you just can't walk away from such things.

Just something that I have been thinking about.

 

yikes....

https://tennesseestar.com/justice/b...ion-of-human-trafficking/tpappert/2025/04/16/

The Tennessee Star learned on Wednesday that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged member of the Central American gang Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) who was deported to El Salvador under President Donald Trump amid legal action claiming the removal was by mistake, was suspected of being engaged in human trafficking by a Tennessee Highway Patrol (THP) officer who detained him in December 2022, leading the THP to contact the FBI for guidance. Within two hours, the FBI ultimately requested the THP release Garcia and the passengers in his vehicle. THP complied with the request.

The Star learned from sources familiar with the incident that Abrego Garcia was stopped for an unknown reason on December 6, 2022, and that the THP officer responsible for the stop immediately discovered Abrego Garcia was transporting seven passengers, with eight individuals inside the vehicle.

During a nearly two-hour traffic stop, the THP officer determined that Abrego Garcia (pictured above) was operating the vehicle without a valid driver's license and began searching for information about him.

Something about the traffic stop caused concern in the mind of the THP officer that other law enforcement agencies should be alerted. One source told The Star that THP ultimately discovered Abrego Garcia was on a terrorist watch list, but could not locate Abrego Garcia on a deportation list. Another source told The Star that THP did not discover Abrego Garcia on a terrorist watch list but that another one of the seven passengers in the vehicle may have been on a terrorist watch list.

THP subsequently called the FBI, which was then led by former Director Christopher Wray under the Biden administration. The FBI instructed the THP officers at the scene to capture photographs of all eight people in the vehicle and document its contents.

Once the photographs were captured, this source told The Star that the FBI requested THP release all eight individuals and that the THP officers complied with this request.

 

No, not at all. It was just a shot at strosb4bros. I thought it was clear based on our posting history. My bad.

I had ALL the sh-tty jobs: McDonald’s; loading bags of mulch at Home Depot; cashier at Auchan (remember that megastore off Beltway 8 and beechnut?); telemarketing selling aluminum siding; customer service at Mervyn’s (you haven’t lived until a customer is screaming at you about their pants on layaway). My favorite was selling plastic crumb removers at the flea market off 290 - hey mam, look, come over here; let me demonstrate by dropping breadcrumbs on this shitty table with a cloth on it.

I’m absolutely not one to look down on people with these jobs. For the most part, they are just hard working people trying to get by on crap wages. Likewise, illegal immigrants selling stuff at flea markets or mowing lawns are some of the most decent hard working people I’ve ever been around.

 

yeah, but would you deport all illegal aliens?