Kilmar Abrego Garcia will not be returned to the US

The economic fallout has been happening. The difference is our government has been ignoring the under 50 crowd and acting like the economy has been fine. Do you think the 40% of people who do not own equities/hard assets are upset the stock market is down? 10% own 90% of equities. Do you REALLY think that 40% really care about the stock market? Or do you suppose.... its all faux outrage?

The populist movement isn't going away and the democrats do not have a serious populist candidate or a movement in its ranks.

 

I was talking about OECD countries being entirely overwhelmed by illegal immigrants and leftists and NGOs hiding behind antiquated laws/treaties/conventions and notions of due process that allow it to happen.

But throw your little hissy fit about Trump if it makes you feel better.

 

Curious question about your grand plight during your quest for exceptional intellect - Along the way, where were you indoctrinated to believe the United States and its government had supreme rule over this planet? Its not just you, its a very common arrogant American way of thinking.

Unless you fail to understand Garcia is a citzen of El Salvador and is currently in El Salvador.

Imagine a world where any country could demand another country to give up one of its citizens. Its just laughably stupid.

 

East Asians are in that camp especially with the meritocracy angle. I haven't checked voting trends lately but it feels like it's split in half ideologically with a 20% swing buffer for issues like the economy, education and public safety.

There are those who think they made it or can pass off as the token exotic friend, but we all got a little wiser after COVID even if we mostly stayed in our parties and kept the social circles that came with it. Sometimes it's more than just business and good vibes, esp with the past decade.

One of the more unpublicized parts of signalgate and the Laura Loomer purge was that she wanted to shitcan Mike Waltz's principal deputy Alex Wong just because he was Chinese. Despite working years in government and under Tom ****ing Cotton, she thought knew he was compromised.

It's a passive backhand to assume all Asians aren't DEI or a traditionally defined person of color. Hell, many of the Asian Americans I know joke about it or genuinely believe it.

But does not matter when the stakes are high and our dear leaders can not un**** a situation they bumbled themselves into.

 

The "notion of due process"? It's literally an amendment. How is one hiding when we're talking about actual laws/treaties/conventions? The groups you are talking about are using the actual laws/treaties/conventions as a basis for lawfully protecting those they're charged with protecting. Call them antiquated all you want (kind of like the one from the 1700's the trump administration is using to deport people without due process). They're still laws that are on the books today...in 2025.

 

Where did I say anything about the stock market? The economic issues from a lack of confidence/ insecurities and inflation will go well beyond the stock market.

Who said anything about populism going away? Class warfare is quite possible.

As for the Democrats not having a populist right now - they don’t need one yet, and candidates and who is on top can and does change very quickly. The Republicans looked cooked not long ago.

 

you said people who criticize trump should be sent to prison in el salvador.

and you are choosing fascism over democracy. you clearly dont care about the rights of legally abiding US citizens.

 

The public has already dumped Trump on economics.... its only going to get worst

.....lmao just today the MAGAs reversed a biden rule capping credit card fees which were capped at 8 bucks. Now credit card companies are free to charge any amount they want. Populism !



They also got rid of direct file which allowed citizens to file their taxes for free.



The idea that MAGATs care about ordinary americans is so hilarious.

 

There is something about the right wing fascist coward mindset of people like you or Pam Bondi or Trump etc that cannot directly engage in good faith. There is a reason why right wing politicians and media figures weaponize access journalism to where basic confrontational questioning is completely removed from their precense where they can do a continuous loop of bad faith engagement towards the media without pushback.

You represent this very well.. Because I know your coward ass ain't going to engage with this premise:

THE TRUMP ADMINSTRATION DID NOT IN GOOD FAITH MAKE A MISTAKE. Their claims of Garcia being a gang member are in bad faith. Why don't you engage with this? Because then you would have to confront the sincere concern at hand that the administration is eroding due process so they can in BAD FAITH label a US citizen a non citizen and a gang member and doing it first to someone like Garcia is a step in that process and goes hand in hand with Trump throwing around the idea of sending American citizens to CECOT. That's it. That is what they are trying to do.

You can even disagree that this is what is happening but given you don't attempt to debunk it but rather completely avoid it and in bad faith spam the Trump bad faith talking point that this was a mistake that was too late and now he's just an El Salvadorian citizen in EL Salvador, you don't disagree that is what is happening. Yo are just too much of a coward to admit that is what is happening.

Now I am not that advanced in reading simpleton brains to where I can assume why you are being a coward in admitting this is what is happening. My guess is what I assumed earlier that you have attached your identity to an ideology for most of your life where the end state of it is the erosion of the Bill of Rights from a Nepo Baby who bankrupted Casinos. Maybe that is too much of a attack on your core identity and that is why you are a coward but I admit this is merely my assumption. But you being a coward isn't an assumption.

 

It's interesting how interested you are in the law when it's something you're favorably disposed towards but when it's not you don't give a ****.

It's a violation of Title 8 Section 1325 United States Code to illegally enter this country, something that millions of persons have done and continue to do every year.

Yet you don't care about enforcing that law. You don't care that millions of people enter this country, overstay their visas or otherwise reside in this country in contravention of our laws.

Interesting how that works.

Leftists don't care because they believe illegal immigration will benefit them electorally in the future.

 

So we are moving goal posts now?

Garcia, a man who came to this country as a teenager with his parents deserves indefinite detention at CECOT??

And you are saying people like us care about a human being thrown into a concertation camp for coming to this country as a teen with their parents because we think having empathy wins elections?

This could be just you being a psychopath and not having that awareness to realize it and project motivations that are only based in electorilism to others. Hollywood has created the image of the genius psychopath but usually psychopaths are really stupid and don't have basic introspective abilities such as yourself.

 

I would recommend you reread your original post. You stated Americans will not tolerate the economic fallout. This implies the economy was just fine before Trump and as of recent it has gone to ****. That is incorrect. The equities market has had a blowout, that is not the economy. As I said, the economy has been in poor condition since Covid and inflation has been an issue. Adoo and his merry band of idiots keep repeating inflation is at all time lows despite prices at the grocery store have been going up. And we are not talking about transitory issues like eggs. People are not as stupid as some of you want to believe.
In 2024, Americans had two choices: 1) Continue to be lied to that everything is getting so much better despite said candidate being one of the most r****ded candidates in recent history or 2) Go with the bizarro chaotic guy who acknowledges the problem and promises to fix it but will probably make it worse. So Americans, either go with Net 0 candidate or go with the -5/+5 spread.

You are correct. Democrats do not need a populist candidate. They can run the establishment candidate like they did with Harris. And with the same results. They can continue on being concerned about the rights of criminals over victims instead of the 50%+ of Americans who are struggling. Obviously you guys didn't learn your lesson with the alphabet people. Social issues are fine to push during times of prosperity (gay marriage)but when half of the country is struggling, pushing transgender stupidity solidifies you into a losing position. And if you think the majority of Americans are concerned with Garcia, you are wrong. They are tired of the forever wars. they are tired of all the nonsense that has been going on for years. So feel free to run Newsom or AOC and lets see how that goes. Worked well for Harris.

and LOL. The establishment Republicans are toast. Everyone hates McConnell. DeSantis bit the r****d stick with Disney and wokeism. At least Abbott stays out of the national spotlight. Nobody wants to be identified with the old school Republican establishment. Easy pickings for Trump. All eyes are on Vance. If you thought Trump was bad, wait until you get 8 years of Vance. So please, spare us a Vance presidency and put a competent candidate up. I am not convinced since the last competent candidate to run on the national ticket was Obama(who was mostly a populist).
Good lucky fiercely defending your team. Maybe its time to vote the person (populism) instead of the team (establishment).

 

I misspoke. I apologize. Only people who speak poorly about Trump AND voted for Harris should be sent to el salvador.

Is that better?

Ive got 99 problems and your hyperbole is not one of them.

 

Wasn't it the Good Ol Days when a being a Senator meant something and could at least not be flat out rejected in public?



I guess everyone and the world knows congress won't do jack **** to stop Trump.

 

That’s a lot of assumptions in there jackass.

You’ve been brainwashed to believe that everybody who is upset about the deprivation of due process and clear violation of the rule of law is also in favor of illegal immigration. You cannot fathom the possibility that a person wants all laws observed and enforced. Nope, just swallow the nonsense that you read in your right wing echo chamber because it is absolutely essential to your rage, indignance and hatred.

The biggest joke is that people who are enraged about illegal immigrants are far too weak and lazy to do the work that the illegal immigrants do in our economy (pick fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, wash the dishes, bus the tables). But you are very glad to benefit from the low wages that the illegal aliens accept, and the corresponding low prices for everything that the low wages affords.

The hypocracy is only matched by the bigotry.

 

This is a R talking point.

For the record, leftist do not believe this. Illegals don’t vote, so this makes even less sense.

I will that people who say disingenuous **** like this are the reason why we as a country can not have a serious discussion wrt immigration reform.

 

How do you suggest we tackle the violations of our nations laws by the millions of people entering and residing in this country illegally?

 

This isn't true at all. Democrats absolutely do believe this and used to discuss demographics being destiny.

Obviously, illegal immigrants shouldn't be voting but they have children dumbass and historically Hispanics have voted Democratic.

 

I don't know what Garcia deserves.

I know he came to this country illegally and resided in this country illegally for many years before suddenly developing an asylum claim only after he was detained by authorities and some judge bought his story.

I'm saying you would sing an entirely different tune concerning immigration if you thought migrants would eventually provide Republicans an electoral advantage.