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Phoenix Suns' Pick Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Aruba77, Jan 2, 2025.

  1. saleem

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    Please send us that link.
     
  2. Corrosion

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    It takes a minimum of $86,280,698.4 in outgoing salary to trade for both of them .....

    FVV & Brooks make a combined $66,011,040 leaving you $20.2m short ..... You'd have to add Jabari & Landale Or Reed & Amen.

    You'd also be a 2A team.

    Screw That.
     
  3. today

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    Thx for pointing this out, now we need to look at those two rosters to see who we might like, if we get them involved in the mega-trade.

    Edit: Eh, didn't see much
     
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  4. roslolian

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    That trade will help PHX alot as they have no problem scoring, their main issue is defense. DB will be their new Mikal Bridges and FVV will be their new Cp3. Booker played well when he is surrounded by good defenders. They will at least be a play in team which is bad for our picks.

    DB and FVV are culture setters, their influence extends more than their play on the court. They are exactly the vets Booker and Suns need to fix their team chemistry this will just be shooting ourselves in the foot. Look at how bad Raptors and Memphis have been since they been gone, those teams either became tank teams or got lots of drama. Not saying they are superstars (although has indeed played like a star) but they help a lot in fixing locker room issues.

    And then given how brittle KD is now he is prob gonna get various injuries and miss half the season. Rox would royally **** up their rebuild.
     
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    I don't think Philly is "of course", and more "tbd", but... point taken, I guess.

     
  6. JayGoogle

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    Yes, Suns should go hard sell on all their players.

    Booker is 28 (will be 29 at the start of next season), they will never be able to rebuild with him, while I think if they trade Durant and just have Booker they will still be a crappy team as he's not a 1st team NBA guy that can carry bad teams to mediocrity, we know Booker is probably going to ask out of that situation any ways, he's not going to sit around on some tanking team I would think.

    So yeah, their best option is to trade Durant and Booker for any assets they can get and just rebuild. Doing anything else is stupid although some owners are just content with owning a team too and they know having Booker drives more ticket sales than not having him.

    I don't think the Rockets will be desperate enough for Durant and definitely not Booker in this scenario. I might sound crazy but I'm not sure Booker is a better all around player than Jalen Green right now. He gives you scoring and little else.

    If the Rockets flame out in the playoffs and want Durant they can maybe nab away Cam Whitmore or Reed in some Durant deal for sure and they should definitely take that but we'll see. If the Rockets completely flame out, get swept in the first round, maybe the team gets desperate enough for that megadeal.
     
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    That is a gap year for an NBA student.

     
  8. luckyman76

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    Everybody loves to cash checks and especially thieves. Anybody that has a ton of money can tell you they always want more. Any contract he takes with any team next year will be vet min and the Suns can claw back on it. He will have no Bird Rights to pass along to all teams that have no cap space anyway. At 32, Beal is not going to throw away $10M to play on a min contract. In your scenario he may never earn that $10M back that is already slated for his bank account. At this point Beal has $300M in career earnings because he may not have been healthy or serious about his game but he made damn sure to lock down his money. Remember this dude was close to Wall. He saw what happened. If he plays well and moderately healthy in the next two years on a bad team without expectations, Suns may be able to trade his expiring contract. If he finds value on another team that can resign him to a smaller contract with Bird Rights he can extend his larger paydays and at worst vet min chase a ring with Tatum. Players in the past retired because they never had access to this kind of money. Any player that can drag himself out of bed in the morning is going to chase this gravy train as long as someone will let them get away with it.
     
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    That is why Houston and OKC have outgrown someone like Booker but he can still be valuable to teams that are at the start of the rebuilding journeys.... provided that Booker is getting back to his old self and not shooting below average numbers.

    Maybe even San Antonio and IDK Orlando....

     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    Those are both spots that make sense, Spurs have the young players to make a deal like that if they wanted to immediately go all in. I hope they don't, Fox, Booker, Wemby is not a team I want to mess with.

    Orlando makes sense too, they really need scoring in the worst way, not sure what they could give up since they wouldn't give up Paolo or Wagner.

    Also the Detroit scenario makes sense too if they also feel like their young core is set and go all in. I don't think they are doing anything with Ivey and I don't know if Ivey will ever do anything of note playing next to Cade any ways.
     
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    They need to see how Steph Castle could score first otherwise a Tari or Amen light would do....

    And cheaper shooters than Booker.

    The gripe is a few teams can sort of replicate Booker's production with 3-4 highly productive players.

    Booker has missed the train of guys that can drag teams to the playoffs by themselves, he ain't of one of them, he needs a great playmaker.

     
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  12. Plowman

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    We'd be upgrading FVV, a position where we're weak, now. Booker can handle the ball, shoot it, and get to the hoop. A top 15 player whose contract doesnt jump until after 2028. Some might not realize it, but it's the kind of move that allows us to contend with the big boys. Again, it makes for a dramatic swing in talent at that spot. Book's ball handling is underrated for us and he becomes more efficient with the great cast here. Besides his shooting, he gives us a bonafide closer to mix with our "potential" ones..

    Booker
    Green
    Amen
    Jabari
    Sengun

    4 out of five can initiate the offense. There's enough shooting.
    It's a scary, balanced lineup.

    FVV+ all PHX assets for Booker.
     
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  13. vince

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    Unfortunately for the Phoenix Suns fans it’s only 2025, and they don’t own their own pick until 2032.

    Maybe there is some reprieve for them, in that some of the other picks may be top 4 protected - I haven’t read about it, but their management couldn’t be that obtuse.
     
  14. Imanimal

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    You’re right….we’d be so much worse losing Landale, FVV, and Brooks for Booker and Durant. 3 All-Stars for two total scrubs. Rockets would go back to the 18 win Silas years for sure with the AWFUL lineup of:
    Thompson
    Green
    Booker
    Durant
    Sengun
    Yet another genius post by Corrosion!!!
     
  15. roslolian

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    2028 is in 2 yrs. Shortening our window to 2 yrs is honestly just wrong.

    Rox are in the enviable position of being second seed while having a bunch of early 20 yr olds as the core. People hate it so bad they are jumping on the lowest hanging fruit available to destroy it.

    Booker is among the worst supermaxes. Is he better than SGA? Giannis? Jokic? If Booker was in OKC he'd be the 4rth best player, yet you want us to pay him 35% of our cap. lol
     
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    We all know Plowman is enamored by Booker. He's been attempting to talk the trade into existence this whole year. Let's hope the Rockets FO is smarter and stay away from Booker.
     
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    Miami needs to win tonight to give us some breathing room.

    Big match up between the Spurs and Suns tonight. Would be massive of Castle can have a ROY game....
     
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    This is a big game for sure. I feel like if we could lose a close game to the Lakers, that would be ideal. They'd have no incentive to try against the Blazers in the final game of the season. I'm assuming the Warriors win tonight vs Blazers to get out of the play in. If Memphis loses again in this back to back, it looks like they'll slide to the play in for sure, which is what I'd like most. I know they'll probably lose that play in game, but I'd like at least a chance to play against them in round 1. I also hope the Clippers win tonight so the Kings have to try against the Suns in the final game.
     
  19. roslolian

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    Exactly. Yes Booker would look good on this team. But every star would look good on this team, the team is what is great and not Booker himself. Booker is a top 20 talent getting paid loke a top 5 talent, thats why the Suns couldnt even make the play in.
     
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    Top 5 Talents are paid like Top 40 Talents because the NBA has a convoluted maximum contract provision. Maximum contracts are way too small a percentage of the salary cap.
     

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