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Deion & Shadeur Sanders

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by K9Texan, Mar 25, 2024.

  1. A_3PO

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    The difference is Deion is actually passionate about the game of football, is willing to roll up his sleeves and put in the hours and work. He did at Jackson State and I have no doubt he's totally immersed in the football program at Colorado. I also appreciate some of his candor. But I despise his self-worship and doubt he will last there past this year when Shedeur is gone.

    On the other hand, Clyde was a complete joke from day 1 because wanted to be a head coach and treat it like a part-time job. I doubt he could even handle being an assistant. If only being a D1 head coach was as easy as owning a local restaurant.
     
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    I know, that was a bad joke. Deion at least cares enough about his players to spend time at work.
     
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    Head coaching or even being a top assistant at D-1 is like having 2 full-time jobs. I'm amazed guys do it as long as they do when they could get big checks doing media or Athletic Director instead.
     
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    Is it, though? People misunderstand the NFL system. Sure, players don't have guaranteed long-term contracts, but unlike MLB and NBA, players can hold out and renegotiate contracts a few years in. So players are generally not overpaid, but they also are generally not underpaid. And with NFL careers being shorter than other sports, that's pretty important. Despite 50+ man rosters, the top players still get paid similarly to the top NBA players and more than the top MLB players.

    NFL players also have much better freedom of movement and an easy-to-manipulate cap system. MLB players are trapped in a minor league system and many never get paid at all. NBA system is great for players in both pay and security, but that's thanks largely in part to having so few star players and their ability to hold out and pout and cause problems for their teams (see James Harden).

    There are advantages and disadvantages to every system, but the NFLPA is doing fine for themselves. In total, all the major sports are at about a 50/50 revenue share between players and owners - so its really just a matter of how that money gets distributed. The NFL has the biggest pot of money and the most competitive league thanks to the system they have in place, meaning more bidders for every player.
     
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    I would say that the disadvantage to the NFL System is the constant risk of crippling injuries, and the lack of care they provide post-career.
     
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    Sanders and Hunter are freaks.
     
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    I think that was the most complete game of football CU has played in 15 years

    Travis Hunter is the best player in the country
     
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    [QUOTE="rhino17, post: 15381489, member: 19214"Travis Hunter is the best player in the country[/quote]

    true
     
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    I have never heard of the assault story because I never cared until now. Anyone who can bust someone up like that probably has issues I don't want to smoke out. Not worth a draft pick. Then he didn't show up to court to handle it. It basically comes down to not wanting to deal with it, and hoping it will just go away, but it never does, it only gets worse. That's not a good sign for football development either.

    The complaint says one of Coach Prime's assistant coaches came to Darjean's office with the two-time Super Bowl winner on the phone, who instructed the security guard to take the phone off his son, who was said to be on a call with Pilar, his ex-wife since 2013. According to the filing, Deion Sanders told Darjean: "You're my brother in Christ, I need you to go get the phone...as soon as you get the phone from him, give me a call back."

    According to Darjean's complaint, it was at that point that Shilo Sanders allegedly slammed his elbow into Darjean’s chest and continued punching the officer. As a result, Darjean claims he was taken to hospital in an ambulance. In a separate legal filing, Shilo acknowledges that an incident took place - but denies or claims he fails to remember many of Darjean's version of events.

    In a lawsuit filed in Dallas District Court in 2016, Darjean claimed he had "sustained severe and permanent injuries including a broken neck, damage to his cervical spine, permanent neurological injuries and irreversible incontinence."

    In a 2022 trial, in which Shilo Sanders did not appear, the court ruled in Darjean's favor, ruling he should be paid $11.89m.
     
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    Deion: The raise is well-deserved. He's the best thing that's happened to Colorado football in decades. They are lucky to have him. Talk about hitting the lottery with a coaching hire.

    Shedeur: He is not worth a 1st round pick. If the Brown's or Giants select him top 3, they will severely regret it.
     
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    Shaduer had some moments of pin-point accuracy. It shows on film. And Tom Brady likes him better than Cam Ward. That's enough of a mandate right there to draft the guy. Accuracy and timing are more than half the battle. And if he does shine, you've got a brand name which comes with benefits. Whatever happens, I think he's a sound draft pick for the Browns or Giants.

    The guy messing up is Carter. Not showing for the Combine, or your pro-day, having two, not just one injury to report, All major red flags. It will cost him the #1 pick and he knows it. So he had to be seriously injured. The only question is just how serious. If he can work out before the draft he can fix it, but if he refuses, it will hurt his stock.
     
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    Shedeur's accuracy is great, but his arm and mobility are not. IMO, his ceiling is not high. I'm also not sure his head is screwed on.

    I don't like Cam Ward either. Put me in the group that believes both guys are below 5 of the top 6 QBs drafted in the 1st round last year. The except is JJ McCarthy.
     
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    Put me in the group that thinks Saunders is #1. If he's #2 it's because of some rando we're not talking about. He might not even be THAT good, but he's the best one in the class EZ.
     
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    Sanders is accurate and he doesn't get rattled. Two traits that I think Brady would love. Brady had what people considered a weak arm also. The only knock on Sanders is can he make decisions fast enough and not hang on to the ball. Trust his receivers enough to throw into space and expect them to catch it.
     
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    Mobility isn't important for a pocket passer. Brady ran one of the slowest 40s of all time. LOL.
     
  20. A_3PO

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    LOL if you are comparing Shedeur to Brady. Or should I say, delusional.
     

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