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Is Tesla a high status or low status vehicle?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Nov 10, 2024.

  1. No Worries

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    Not directly. Selling a used Tesla for a low, low price hurts the resale market for Tesla, which hurts the Tesla new car market, which hurts Leon The Genius Nazi.
     
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  2. Space Ghost

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    Typical democrat.
    "I didnt do that"

    Why do modern Democrats always call for violence and destruction? Hate pushed by the left will get this man in some serious trouble. Democrats wont be happy until Republicans are being dragged to death in the streets.

     
  3. Deckard

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    Troll.
     
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  4. ThatBoyNick

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    The 180 of the brand going from beloved by well-off hipsters and liberals to maga is objectively hilarious.

    I don't know where this weird mashup of electric cars for the party of people generally against electric goes, it's a niche of a self limited market.
     
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  5. Invisible Fan

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    Libs didn't like me-lon's TRANSformation and shitcanned him faster than a Con thinking a trans brewed his bud light.

    Good thing Space X will 100% replace NASA to make duhhmarkits freeee
     
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  6. ThatBoyNick

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    I don't know about that, it didn't get bad until the last few months and Elon has been transforming (or self revealing) for years now. The budlight beer thing was an overnight viral sensation.

    I think I welcome this situation (for what it can be) as a smooth invitation for conservatives to be open to electric now.

    Last time we talked you said you were anti social democracy, I may need to run that convo back with you now lol.
     
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  7. Invisible Fan

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    I'm saying this isn't interesting at all - Mulvaney was a Tipping Point much like elon's not-Nazi-you-said-it-was-Nazi-first-salute. More like Americans doing American things. The vandalism and destruction of private property is illegal and should stop. Not sure how that'll prevent tanking Tesla sales.

    BTW, this guy is advocating violence. Trump should declare him terrrist!!!!1111



    Sarcarsm dude. I like capitalism more than communism, but regulatory capture is preferable to neither.
     
  8. ThatBoyNick

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    How is regulatory capture best avoided, or fought, in your eyes
     
  9. mvpcrossxover

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    i wonder if he's one of the poster on CF :D
     
  10. heymak

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    Reminds me of the roid rage one of my Army buddies went through when I was stationed in Turkey and steroids were easily available.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    That's a damn hard question to answer. It's damn hard because as society becomes more complex and wealth compounds from millions to billions into trillions, the value of one vote or person diminishes. Simplicity comes in the veneer of a tech company with a back office of around a small American town.

    Ideally, we'd have a culture that promotes an informed public who cares about how the rule of law works (not sometimes or only when your tribe isn't in power). The principle is that if we or our leaders do not hold people at the top accountable, then there is zero assurance that the people directly below would hold themselves accountable.

    You see this in China where everything goes, and producers scam consumers with fake or lower quality product to boost margins. A restauranteur sells a meal with gutter oil and cardboard infused meat to a construction worker who uses subpar concrete and wood for the apartment complex the restauranteur lives in. They all know this. But they rationalize it with "Our society hasn't made it yet. It's unfortunate we poison each other, but we're still comparably better off than the 49% chinese living in squalor or the countryside. Work harder, make more money, only then you can spend more money to avoid gutter oil and tofu dregs!"

    That kind of competition is cutthroat and is at the core of an entreprenureal captialism Trump's donor class is promoting.

    Elon's situation is different. Cons were crying and gloating about Scam Bankman Fried spending roughly a billion with corporate money to buy up influence with the DNC, yet Elon himself footed almost a third of that with his own money to do the exact same thing and more in order to enrich his own interests.

    People can try to punish Elon through Tesla, but he still has an offramp with his ~40% ownership of SpaceX and the Government contracts and contacts he's clearing the way through DOGE and Trump.

    Walking Conflicts of Interest are the new normal now? I'm not sure if Americans are even at a breaking point.
     
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  12. ThatBoyNick

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    This brings me back to a thought, if our size is a serious detriment to our success and functionality then fragmentation should be a real consideration. I'd rather stand divided than fall united.

    This takes me back to this

    Elon Musk says ‘China rocks’ while the U.S. is full of ‘complacency and entitlement’

    Elon gettin rid of that complacency and entitlement through his work with Trump lol. Happy days here we come.
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    Think of it from a different perspective. Our increasing size/scale is a tribute to humanity's success and ingenuity of merging tech advancements and governance into a fully functional society. Every industrial revolution is marked by social changes and upheaval because the differences in (centuries old) living standards and norms are remarkably different than before the inventions that caused the revolution. London Fog wasn't a weather condition but rather the endless soot that came from factories. Mountainous piles of horseshit in city borders was the problem before we cared what foul gases cars were emitting.

    Fragmentation with different flavors of federation, decentralization, hierarchical flattening, etc sounds very libertarian at its core principles (each with great appeals to simplicity and individualistic agency), but we are beyond a scale where our monkey minds can't intuitively process hierarchical connections or the individual complex events registered daily inside a million+ city let alone a world with 8 billion people.

    I guess AI or some form of augmentation will swoop in as white knights, which I think would be the secret sauce of Dark Enlightment-ers like Elon, but private tech industry hasn't fully proven itself capable of replacing government functions. It can't even deliver a hamburger without screwing everyone, their partners and their competition over in order to secure a distant hope of coming out as top dog.

    On that note, I'd probably check out and pay attention to what his private equity buddies like Mithral Capital or A16Z are investing into. Some of it is outright dystopian, but at least they're mindful of both uber optimistic tech singularities and direly pessimistic societal collapse from it's own weight.

    I guess in fairness, the CCP is already a few steps ahead of that curve.
     
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  14. Agent94

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    You’ve lost your mind. Get off Twitter.
     
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  15. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    We found Deckard?
     
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  16. Space Ghost

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    I would not be surprised in the least bit
     
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    He’s my son and I’m very proud of him. He left the house a little too quickly and forgot the bullhorn that I got him a couple days ago. The best way to deal with woke clowns is to drown them out and give them a wedgie.
     
  18. Space Ghost

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    Maybe its time to ban keys. (its the 21st century. Why do we still use physical keys?)

     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    tesla is a "Low - T" vehicle.

    DD
     
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  20. Space Ghost

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    Remember back when the more pragmatic people were in strong opposition of cap-and-trade? Something about how its one giant political grift that will get out of control? Good ol Barry rebuilt the Democrat party and simultaneously destroyed it. Wait until Doge gets ahold of medical and find out Obamacare is incredibly inefficient, wasteful and chalked with fraud.
    Now the carbon tax beast has turned on its master and I find it incredibly amusing. Democrats are idiots.

     

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