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The Arrest of Mahmoud Khalil

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by JuanValdez, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. JHarden713

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    You can be supportive of the Palestinian people. You're allowed to criticize Israel and their actions all you want. The State department made it clear that criticizing Israel is not anti-semitic.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Well this guy being bagged by non-uniformed paramilitary fascists without a charge and detaining him in Louisiana says otherwise.

    Are you one of those idiots that believes fascists like Musk and Trump when they wax lyrical about "free speech". You ain't one of them dummies right?

    Right?
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Don't get mad at me because my opinions are different than yours.....I was making a general comment, I don't condone the arrest, but to say that it is surprising in this day is just ignorant.

    He will get his day in court, if that is what the law says - and he will probably win - unless they have some reason they can convince a court he was supporting terrorism.

    I just think it wise if folks were smarter until we can get proper leadership, it is going to be painful for some folks, that is what 31% of our country voted for, and now we have to go through this mess, until calmer leadership is voted in.

    Just for the record, I would have disbanded ICE already, they are an illegal department.

    You should stop being so petty it undermines your reasonable arguments.

    DD
     
  4. JHarden713

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    Seems to me they got him on pro Hamas and not on pro Palestinians.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    The courts will save us!

    You heard it hear. DD is teaching us about the court system. I didn't know this existed before.


    Hey do you think a admin that put the world's wealthiest man in charge of violating abject constitutional clauses such as "power of the purse" gives two ***** about "court orders"?

    The detention in itself is already illegal dipshit.

    And your lack of basic empathy here is more unbecoming of a human than me calling you a obese waddling dib ****.
     
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  6. Xopher

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    Name one...
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Never mind you are helpless - next time I won't extend an olive branch I will just wack you with it......

    Figuratively! Of course.

    DD
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    oh what are the charges?
    Material support for a terrorist organization is already on the books as a law that the government can charge someone with. See people get charged first and then detained.

    So I'm assuming the charge exists. What are his charges?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    What olive branch did you think you were extending by gaslighting that this guy deserves his predicament because "he wasn't careful"?

    You are bad at gaslighting.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Sometimes there isn't a "both sides" to an issue.
     
  11. jo mama

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    even by your standards this is pretty weak.
     
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    this is not a free speech issue. it is a resident alien supporting designated terror group issue. do not conflate the two.
     
  13. basso

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    I have modern standards.

     
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    Here's your assignment for the day. Attempt humor without the use of psychopathy. You got it in you?
     
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    from the above:

    A green card comes with legal obligations, including the disavowal of terrorism. Under 8 USC 1182, an alien is “inadmissable” if he or she “endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity” or is “a representative of . . . a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity.”

    Mr. Khalil seems to have violated that obligation. He belongs to Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD) and was a lead negotiator during last spring’s anti-Israel encampment on the campus. Those protests glorified Hamas. CUAD was also a key player in the school’s encampment, which was a “Zionist-free zone,” a designation that excluded Jews from a large part of campus.

    In October 2024, CUAD formalized its support for Hamas and again celebrated the Oct. 7, 2023 massacre. In a statement revoking an apology the group had made for the remark of member Khymani James that “Zionists don’t deserve to live,” the group said that apology didn’t represent “CUAD’s values or political lines.” The group added, “We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance.”
     
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    Usually one one makes a claim and someone needs to counter it, there are multiple layers of approach one can take with sometimes only one layer working. Like usually there is a layer that uses empathy to convince. There is a layer that addreses the legality, a layer that applies context etc.


    Your claim falls apart at all layers starting from the first basic layer of legality.

    There already are federal statutes in regards to material support for terrorism. That means a resident or citizen can be charged with this crime.

    So what charges does this guy have currently since he has already been arrested and detained. That part happens usually AFTER the charge. So what charge is currently being applied?
     

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