1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Would you gamble on Zion Williamson?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by larsv8, Jun 1, 2022.

?

Would you offer Zion a 4 year max, all guaranteed?

  1. Yes

    30.8%
  2. No

    69.2%
  1. TimDuncanDonaut

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    15,228
    Likes Received:
    36,343
    We need a Williamson expert to weigh in and have the final say so. @Williamson
     
    chadyang likes this.
  2. Prince_Hakeem

    Prince_Hakeem Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2023
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    503
    If only there was a way to mix Adelman’s offense but keep Ime’s D. I hate how our guys just stand around. Why no off ball actions like endless pics and guys running around tiring out defenses for backroom cuts and other off ball movement like the 2013 and 2014 Spurs. I dont get why more teams don’t play that way.
     
    chadyang and DaDakota like this.
  3. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    29,887
    Likes Received:
    20,033
    Well he is that good. Dude's a freak athlete.
     
    Terror-Trips likes this.
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,538
    Likes Received:
    38,763
    Hire Adleman Jr as OC.

    DD
     
  5. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Not just a physical freak but super skilled as well. Averaging 5 AST as a forward is not a fluke. And almost 6 inches shorter than Jabari (same height as Dillon) but averaging more rebounds, steals and exact same blocks.
     
    amaru and roslolian like this.
  6. Reeko

    Reeko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    52,198
    Likes Received:
    143,593
    this is like asking why more teams don’t play like the Golden State Warriors

    Spurs had Pop, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu plus a ton of other vets…arguably the GOAT coach and some of the smartest players ever…Spurs were also 2nd in FG% and 1st in 3 point percentage one season, and 2nd in FG% plus 4th in 3 point percentage the other

    of the 10 guys who have played the most total minutes on this team this season, 6 of them are age 22, 22, 22, 21, 23, and 20…when mediocre FVV is out, we literally don’t even have a PG

    plus we are 1 of the worst shooting teams in all facets whether it’s from the field, from 3, or the free throw line

    y’all need to tell me what offense has looked good when the roster can’t shoot for sh*t and has very little PG play
     
    Prince_Hakeem likes this.
  7. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    21,008
    Likes Received:
    22,414
    Impossible to acquire him without taking a massive risk. You would want him to prove his health first. If he proves his health though, his team won't trade him.

    So he's only a viable target for teams with few assets or very desperate or have hit a ceiling. Opposite of us.

    Zion, Sengun and Amen would not be able to win anything, they would be a bottom 10 offense. Either their efficiency or shot attempts would collapse.
     
    amaru, roslolian and Arnel like this.
  8. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    I disagree that a core of Zion-Amen-Sengun would be bottom 10 offense. Adding 25 PPG scorer who is offensively efficient (career TS% of 62.8) and is positive +/- for career should improve offense. We know that Zion would improve PPG, REB%, TS%, FG%, AST% day one. Zion would also improve fastbreak points due enhanced transition frquency + efficiency, 2P%, FTA%, defense to offense and rim protection. Zion is also an elite zone buster to help fix Rockets half court offense. Like Amen, Zion is elite in vertical spacing.

     
    BelgianRocketsFan likes this.
  9. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
  10. nolimitnp

    nolimitnp Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    3,801
    Likes Received:
    699
    Were you a Rockets fan during the Yao years? I swear I still have PTSD from navigating the soul crushing injury reports year in and year out.

    No thanks.
     
  11. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    12,394
    Likes Received:
    14,780
  12. ElvinHayes2025

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2025
    Messages:
    154
    Likes Received:
    235
    Trading Sengun for him right?
     
  13. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    12,394
    Likes Received:
    14,780
    [​IMG]
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    31,082
    Likes Received:
    48,649
    Obese amen thompson
     
    Terror-Trips and OremLK like this.
  15. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    21,302
    Likes Received:
    34,203
    Zion will never be the best player on a title level team. That's if he's able to play with any regularity at all.

    Even if we did trade from him, and he stayed healthy, our biggest problems would still be the same problem. No shooting, no playmaking.

    Never mind the fact that his game will collapse entirely if he loses any springs.
     
    peleincubus and OremLK like this.
  16. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Never a consideration. Trading for Zion to complement Alp + rest of the core.
     
  17. Arnel

    Arnel Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2000
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    1,519
    same… same here… same. ..
     
  18. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Zion is averaging 25 PPG, 7 REB, 5 AST and almost 3 stocks on 60% TS. Thats near elite production. Hes more than just a freak athlete. That's like saying if Jalen lost his hops he'd be out of NBA.
     
    joshuaao likes this.
  19. Terror-Trips

    Terror-Trips Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2025
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    849
    Would trade Dillon + picks for obese Amen every single time.
     
  20. YaoMac09

    YaoMac09 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2008
    Messages:
    5,452
    Likes Received:
    3,784
    Zion with easy access to Houston restaurants? He’ll end up on My 600-lb Life.
     
    amaru, conquistador#11 and clos4life like this.

Share This Page