Not a huge fan of the "trade" and possible extension, that's like shopping at Macy`s and we will probably pick one up at Target.............and hey, Target isn't bad. The more FA WR are the more diluted the market becomes, back that up with a deep draft for WR and some salary expectations will need to be tempered............personally if Diggs isn't trying to break the bank and is REASONABLE (LOL) I would like him back, but no way do I overpay for him, he would be a "splurge"
One or the other.... NBDN has experience with Atwell; that was my one reason for putting him up there
I’m sure I’m doing this wrong, but Diggs should be a done deal. We are paying 16.7 mil towards him this year no matter what. Paying him 21 mil would cost us another 5 mil. Whereas paying another WR like Atwell 8 mil, actually costs us 25 mil with the 8+16.7.. so Diggs would make more sense right?
IIRC that deal had to be done by Feb. 17th to include the void $$$. Any deal he signs now.... would be a completely new deal (in his mind, he can think about the $16M and the fact that BDN did him a solid)
Supposedly Seahawks want a 1st AND a 3rd. Also, Metcalf is going to want a new deal. Too rich for my blood if true.
Maybe... but he wants more than Nico and I would have a hard time justifying that in my head. It's like when we had JJ & Clowney.... ain't no way I could justify paying Clowney more than JJ (& I wanted Mack to begin with)
If I am Texans, I am looking at Jonathan Allen. Trade 2-58 to WSH for 2-61 + Allen (values Allen as a 5th round pick). Negotiate with Allen (a la Diggs). He would be coming in at $16M ($15.5M base + $500k workout) I would offer him this deal 2025: $2M base + $4M SB + $500K workout = $6.5M (~$10M savings) 2026 (void): $4M SB 2027 (void): $4M SB 2028 (void): $4M SB If he plays well this year = new deal If not, the cap continues to go up each year anyway to absorb some of that lost $$$
The $16M is gone. At this point we can't even use it to reduce our cap hit. So any agreement is strictly FA value and it would be on a prove it basis. Diggs is seeing the downside of moving FA to 2025 and then suffering the injury. With other WRs going to other teams as huge prices, we might get good value from a WR who needs to prove himself. Maybe Diggs or Kupp at $8M-$12M
Elijah Moore would be an ideal slot receiver, he'd give CJ Stroud the reliable checkdown option that he hasn't had in either of his first two seasons. I'd still add Davante and draft a wr in one of the first two rounds
My $$ is on Pats... 2nd this year + conditional 3rd next year (becomes a 2nd if Metcalf All-Pro or Pats in playoffs) They have the cap room to give him the deal he wants as well.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/st...quest-seahawks-new-teams-contract-draft-picks … I would be surprised if Metcalf landed a market-resetting deal north of the $35 million-per-year pact Justin Jefferson signed with the Vikings last June. He just hasn't been that caliber of player. He has a high floor, but he has topped 1,115 yards once in six years and made two Pro Bowls. I can respect an argument that Metcalf might have produced better numbers in a different offense or with a more spectacular set of quarterbacks, but it's tough to make the case he's worth a deal approaching $40 million per year. Now, $30 million per year doesn't seem out of the question. Tyreek Hill's three-year, $90 million extension seems like a logical comparable, while former college teammate A.J. Brown signed a three-year, $96 million deal with the Eagles. Both of those contracts came a year ago, when the cap was $255.4 million. With the cap jumping to $279.2 million in 2025, it seems reasonable for Metcalf to expect something in this ballpark on a new contract. A four-year, $128 million deal would make sense, with $75 million guaranteed at the time of signing between 2025 and 2026. In addition to the $18 million Metcalf is due in 2025 and the various bonuses the Seahawks have to account for, his cap hit would drop by $7.5 million in 2025, creating a little more room for the franchise in which to operate: What DK Metcalf's New Deal Could Look Like YEAR | BASE SALARY | SIGNING BONUS | OPTION BONUS | PRIOR BONUS PRORATION | CAP HIT 2025 $2.5 million $8 million $0 $13.875 million $24.375 million 2026 $12.5 million $8 million $5 million $0 $25.5 million 2026 $18 million $8 million $5 million $0 $31 million 2028 $23 million $8 million $5 million $0 $36 million 2029 $30 million $8 million $5 million $0 $43 million How much could the Seahawks get for Metcalf? Not as much as Seahawks fans might hope. There have been wide receivers who have landed first-round picks in trades over the past few years, including Stefon Diggs (with a seventh-round pick for first-, fifth- and sixth-round picks) in 2020, Davante Adams (first- and second-round picks) in 2022 and Tyreek Hill (five picks, including first- and second-round selections) in 2022. It's difficult to imagine Seahawks fans being satisfied with anything short of a first-round pick for Metcalf, if not more. Those comps might be aggressive. Diggs was entering his age-27 season when the Bills acquired him from Minnesota, and he was in the middle of a team-friendly contract. Metcalf is entering his age-28 season and will require a new contract in the next 12 months. Hill was at the same point of his career, but the fleet-footed wideout had been named first-team All-Pro twice with Kansas City before he joined the Dolphins. And while Adams was two years older, he was coming off back-to-back first-team All-Pro nods in Green Bay when he was sent to the Raiders. Metcalf has averaged just under 66 receiving yards per game over the past three years, which is in line with what Diggs (68.2) produced over his final three years in Minnesota. It's still well behind what Hill (76.7) and Adams (93.4) generated over their last three seasons before being traded. Metcalf's 2.0 yards per route run ranks 33rd among wideouts over the past three seasons, which is good, certainly, but he's immediately below the production of Christian Kirk, who was just made a cap casualty by Jacksonville. Admittedly, some allowance needs to be made for the quality of quarterback play involved. Metcalf wasn't catching passes from Patrick Mahomes or the last MVP-caliber version of Aaron Rodgers. Metcalf's camp is probably projecting that he could have produced something closer to Hill's or Adams' performance with the Chiefs or Packers, respectively. But Metcalf's only second-team All-Pro appearance came in 2020, five seasons ago. Anyone who has seen him knows he's capable of the spectacular, but his production has been more solidly consistent than great in recent years. Combining the performance with Metcalf's age and need for a new deal, it's tough to see the Seahawks landing a first-rounder and multiple other selections as part of a trade. There are just going to be too many veteran wideouts available in free agency as more cap casualties come in over the next week, and the gulf between the top of the receiver market and rookie contracts has never been wider. Rookie deals aren't a sure thing, but the bar for success when trading significant draft capital and handing out a new deal for a player is extremely high. Forgoing those picks and not getting access to cost-controlled talent is a subtle way to hurt a franchise. Let's say the Chargers sent the No. 22 and No. 121 picks to the Seahawks for Metcalf and signed him to a four-year, $128 million contract. Per Ben Baldwin's draft chart, those two selections alone are worth $12.1 million per year. Add that to the value of the proposed Metcalf contract and acquiring him would cost the Chargers more than $44 million per season, significantly more than the Jefferson deal and well ahead of any other non-quarterback. It's not impossible to imagine Metcalf being worth it if he's a superstar wideout, but anything short of first-team All-Pro appearances would make the deal a disappointment. As with any potential trade, the draft compensation would have to be adjusted for the team in question and where it picks in Round 1. It's a lot easier to envision a trade in which the Commanders (who own the No. 29 selection) send a first-round pick to the Seahawks for Metcalf than it would be for the Patriots (who own the No. 4 selection). My best estimation is the Seahawks would be able to land something close to the draft capital of a pick in the 40s as part of a trade. That might mean getting a first-round pick and sending something back alongside him in return or landing a selection toward the top of the second round. Metcalf is a special enough talent to justify teams treating him as more valuable than Kirk and Cooper Kupp in free agency, but he's not as young as Diggs and A.J. Brown or as productive as Adams and Hill were when they were traded for first-round picks. … Houston Texans If you don't succeed, try again? The Texans tried to make a big move for a veteran wideout last offseason, as general manager Nick Caserio sent a second-round pick to the Bills to acquire Diggs. Houston voided the rest of his deal to keep him interested and motivated in a contract year. Diggs was efficient during his stint with the Texans, but a torn ACL ended the four-time Pro Bowler's season in October. It's unclear whether Diggs, who is set to be an unrestricted free agent, will return. Tank Dell's long-term status is also sadly uncertain after the second-year wideout suffered a multi-ligament injury in December. With Dell sidelined indefinitely, there's an opening next to star wideout Nico Collins. We've seen the Texans get aggressive in attempting to add talent for C.J. Stroud, who still has two more years on his rookie deal and a fifth-year option to come. Even if they sign their quarterback to an extension after the 2025 season as expected, the runway afforded by the rookie deal should allow them to spend more on their roster in 2026 and 2027. A year ago, though, the Texans were wildly optimistic about what their offense could be. A year later, with Collins having earned a significant (but still team-friendly) extension, it feels like Caserio needs to focus his efforts and resources elsewhere. Stroud was overwhelmed at times behind a dismal offensive line in 2024, one which shut down the Houston running game, led to too many sacks and eventually saw Stroud leave the playoff loss to the Chiefs with an injury. With coordinator Bobby Slowik replaced by former Rams assistant Nick Caley, I wouldn't be shocked if the Texans were looking at potentially adding Cooper Kupp, who won't cost as much as Metcalf and won't require draft pick compensation if he hits the open market. Caserio needs to devote the bulk of his cap space to fixing the offensive line, not adding a second wide receiver.
