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GOP Proposes $4.5 Trillion Tax Giveaway to the Rich, CUT MEDICAID AND FOOD STAMPS

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by HP3, Feb 12, 2025.

  1. GOATuve

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    Nevermind
     
  2. adoo

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    so, you’re willing to ignore his specific lie, that he will stop inflation on day 1
    stop projecting your willful ignorance

    why are u so afraid of calling out Trump’s campaign lies?
     
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  3. HP3

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    Yea because they dont know what is actually happening. And what they are actually losing.
     
  4. raining threes

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    What are they losing?

    They're able to afford things they normally wouldn't be able to afford.
     
  5. raining threes

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    Let's revisit this in a year.

    Nobody really thought he could do this on a months time. I'm just glad inflation has leveled off.

    Now if you want to talk about lies, how about these,

    Biden, I know nothing about my son's business dealings in the Ukraine.

    Obama, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

    Did you call them out asliars and which lies would you say have done more damage to this country?
     
  6. HP3

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    What are you talking about?
     
  7. HP3

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    Let’s break it down—these ‘cuts’ are just another giveaway to the rich and big corporations, just like last time. Middle-class families might see a tiny tax break, but it’s nothing compared to what the wealthy are raking in. And guess what? To ‘pay’ for these cuts, they’re slashing funding for things regular people actually need—like Medicaid and food assistance.

    So sure, you might save a couple of bucks on your taxes, but if you ever need healthcare or help making ends meet, good luck. The real winners here are the same rich folks who don’t need another tax break, while the middle class gets left holding the bag… again.
     
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    A lot of gee shucks naivety here. The top 8 earning ethnicities are Asian. Asian kids at poor schools outperform black kids at wealthy schools. You're too scared to talk about home life & parental structure which are the factors that drive things, not teachers as saviors (although they are a necessity for society). So the left's answer to create new racism and discriminate against Asians and Whites solved nothing, but created a stereotype against the African Americans who were qualified.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. raining threes

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    I don't need a source to say that Fauci, Chinese are liars. Wuhan Lab leak, you don't need a mask, you need a mask, 6 ft rule. Fauci didn't fund GOF etc... all proven lies.
     
  10. strosb4bros

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    The counter argument is that this will stunt growth and lead to companies moving overseas. 3rd world countries dont give a hoot about worker safety , rights and living wage. Billionaire's provide the work and as we see ... people worship them.
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    Now you are just being ignorant. There is no way in hell you can deny Trump doesn't tick most of the boxes in any psychological testing that lists the traits for antisocial personality disorder, and sociopaths/psychopaths are those types. I guarantee you I've studied more psychology than you, and know more on the subjects of diagnostic testing.

    Let me give you an example....

    Antisocial Personality Disorder: Criteria For A Sociopath Diagnosis

    Sociopathy is a subcategory under the antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) diagnosis in the DSM-5. However, it is not the official term for a personality disorder, and someone cannot be medically diagnosed as a “sociopath.”

    People with antisocial personality disorder may struggle to follow a societal moral code and act illegally or in risky ways.

    Diagnostic criteria of antisocial personality disorder (ASPD)
    According to the DSM-5, antisocial personality disorder is defined as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others (which may have been occurring since at least age 15) as indicated by three (or more) of the following symptoms:

    Believe me, it's easy to find 3 or more of those symptoms that are traits of Trump!


    Failure to conform to social norms concerning lawful behaviors, as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest

    Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure

    Impulsivity or failure to plan

    Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults

    Having no regard for the safety of self or others or exhibiting the behavior of violent offenders

    Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations

    Lack of remorse, or inability to feel guilt, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

    Some adults diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) may have a history of antisocial behavior conduct disorder or oppositional defiance diagnosis before the age of 15. ASPD may also fall under the classification of “antisocial behavioral syndromes,” though this term is not widely used.

    Symptoms of ASPD

    Impairments in both self-perception and interpersonal personalities are present, as well as pathological traits in many people with ASPD.

    Other symptoms someone with antisocial personality disorder may exhibit are:

    Acting kind, exhibiting superficial charm, lying, or otherwise manipulative behavior to resolve personal goals or means

    Exuding a sense of superiority or arrogance

    Partaking in impulsivity and being prone to taking dangerous risks with little regard for how their behavior affects others

    A potential history of criminal behavior (whether or not they’ve been subject to the criminal justice system)

    A lack of empathy or compassionate feelings towards others in physical or emotional distress or a situation

    Hostile, aggressive behavior, emotional abuse, or violence

    Being dishonest or lying to people in the general population

    A shaky moral code or belief system and a difficulty following societal norms

    Being irresponsible

    An inability to maintain healthy relationships

    A lack of regard for rules
     
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    Of course it's a huge part of kids doing well in school. I know that. My link had to do with the facts of how racism over decades gave the advantage of white people the means to accumulate wealth, through many means that had discriminated against blacks in investing, purchasing property, and getting equal opportunities in higher education and jobs. It's the older adults living now who lost the most, and unfortunately their kids suffered too.
     
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  13. adoo

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    to the willfully ignorant raining threes,

    inflation was declining/leveling off [ during Biden's last 2 year in office ] towards 3%,
    a level lower than when Trump 1.0 was fired by the American voters.​
    you and the sheeps who voted for Trump 2.0 did


    since Trump 2.0 began, inflationary data has picked up, attribitable to the dotard's tariff
     
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    So you are saying you think it's better to make people work in more hazardous conditions in chemical plants, factories, or other hazardous jobs with less safety inspectors? Or to limit the people testing the air, ground and water to make sure toxins aren't contaminating it that can cause disabilities, cancer, or other deadly illnesses? People being hurt, sickened, or dying sure aren't cheering that
     
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    While it is ideal to have higher pay that comes out of profits at the very top, the second you propose that or even unionize in some cases, the companies get up and move. Alot of phony tech companies that virtue signal left California and NY for Texas and Florida in the pandemic because of this. There was a massive migration of billionaires.

    when California raised minimum wage to $20 for FF workers, alot of chains closed. The jobs available at this better pay decreased. Where the big money goes, the jobs follow.

    My question was how do you convince the country that all these provisions won't cause the companies to leave? Only very high margin corporations like Apple can keep hiring in high regulation conditions, and even then they outsource alot of the dirty work to China. 99% of companies don't have those margins and want to show their stockholders growth which this would impact. What is the argument when the whole system is set up to maximize low cost labor?
     
  16. adoo

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    yet, you can't even name one.

    btw, many co left Calif because of relative lower taxes in other states , not because of union
     
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  17. HP3

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    This person very clearly has an agenda. The way this person argues, remind of a certain other person.

    Good Day! :D
     
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    This has been discussed a few times.
    To add on to this, also the case for modern African immigrants of course.

    Home life and economics are undoubtedly the core of the issue of american black people being statistically 2nd class citizens in all the wellbeing metrics.

    The disagreements arise in the discussion of why they are in that position today and what can be done to change that today.

    The thought that comparing a group who were stripped of their culture, institutionalized into being slaves who endured torture hundreds of years, and sabotaged economically thereafter to groups that came over on airplanes as educated skilled laborers after the 40s is beyond ludicrous. American blacks and natives are incomparable to other immigrant groups without a huge asterisk, and the effects of that can be visually seen today in things like infant mortality rates.
     
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    Changed its Corporate Headquarters from Redwood City, California to Austin, Texas,” Oracle said in their SEC filing in 2020. “We believe these moves best position Oracle for growth and provide our personnel with more flexibility about where and how they work.

    Taxes and regulations are the primary reason . Tennessee is a popular destination as well.

    You dorks try too hard to be confrontational even when youre on the same side of the argument

    It is clear to me that radical left appeals to you because you are miserable regardless.
     
  20. strosb4bros

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    ... youre saying African chiefs institutionalized their own people into being slaves? Slavery wasn't a white guy invention, they bought existing slaves from Africa. Egypt had slaves, the Arab slave trade was huge etc. You just know the African chiefs or old Arab money would laugh you out of the room if you ask to compensate them for historical trauma.

    Unteachable traits like IQ play a role. Why isn't the NBA full of Hispanic dudes like the MLB?
     

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