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[NYPOST and WSJ] White House aides hid Biden’s apparent mental decline from Day 1 of his presidency,

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    Trump maybe as old as Biden was but there is no standard for declining mental abilities and Trump is a lot more energetic than Biden was
     
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    lol

    this is inconvenient

     
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    Excellent

    To be fair, does he admit he was lied to / manipulated in the book? Because it's not inconvenient with that angle.
     
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    Trump's mental illness has never been hidden. "It's a feature, not a bug."
     
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    It’s a lonely time to be a very online Biden guy. Not a joke!
    Former president Joe Biden’s legacy has taken a beating lately. But Chris Jackson isn’t ready to concede.

    https://wapo.st/4dOm5fz
     
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    Related and relevant. Feel free to start a new thread on this very important topic.


    Trump’s mental decline is undeniable — so what now?
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5429516-trump-confabulation-dementia-signs/

    “Confabulation.” It’s a word you are going to be hearing a lot in the coming months.

    President Trump has always been willing to mislead people when it was to his advantage. Even his supporters recognize this. Hence the famous admonition to “take Trump seriously, not literally.”

    But what Trump is doing now is something different. Confabulation is sometimes called “honest lying,” because the person doing it genuinely believes what he’s saying, even if it is obviously and patently false. A person confabulates when they are telling completely invented stories that don’t provide them any particular tangible benefit. In other words, it’s not like lying to try and get out of a speeding ticket.

    Confabulation isn’t misremembering a date or forgetting something. The mistakes of memory we are all subject to become confabulation when people remember false information in vivid detail — detail so vivid and complete that people who don’t know otherwise often believe what they are hearing is true.

    In older people, confabulation is one of the clearest early signs of dementia. The day you witness someone confabulate is often the day you are forced to admit to yourself that a beloved parent needs help, and that all the little slips and oddities you’ve been seeing can no longer be rationalized away.

    ...

    If you aren’t comfortable with labeling this as dementia, that’s fine. But there is no question that the president — the man tasked with making critical life and death decisions for both the country and the world — is struggling with mathematical concepts, has vivid “memories” that are not rooted in reality and has an increasingly foggy grasp of past events that did happen. That’s not a medical diagnosis. These are facts we can see for ourselves and we all know, even those of us who voted for Trump three times, that this can’t be allowed to continue.

    Whatever dementia issues Joe Biden may have, there is no denying that his staff was superb at managing them and protecting both Biden and the country. Trump, however, doesn’t have those guardrails. That’s one of the reasons we are seeing what we are seeing. Can you imagine Pete Hegseth or Kristi Noem managing Trump’s dementia or even simply telling him “no” and threatening to resign?

    Given this lack of independence in Trump’s Cabinet, I’m not sure what the ultimate solution is. But I know that the first step is for Trump’s most loyal supporters to admit, even if only to themselves, that there is a problem, just as Biden’s supporters did for him.

    Donald Trump is showing all the signs of suffering from dementia. If this were a neighbor, a parent, or a family friend, you would have no trouble seeing it. We should not turn our heads just because it is the president.
     

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