The state of the democratic party

That B is drunk 24/7.

 

There are some highly discounted prime real estate in DC. Might be a good time to pick them up before the next regime does. They will go for a nice premium in 3 years when rates are back around 3 and a half and real estate prices are up 10% YOY over the next 3 years

 

Rich executives don't own homes they live in that are worth 1 to 5 million. That is the value of a home of a career professionals in some technical field. Work 15 years as a engineer making a salary between 100-300k, that is the level of home you probably are living in.

So all you did was show a mass exodus of career professionals, not business executives. The closest thing you probably get to your claim are administrators who are salaried and not capital owners heading some of those NGOs.

The funny thing is Musk and Trump want to replace those salaried administrators with corporate executives who definitely are profit seeking.

The more you talk the more you come off as a 15 year old 4chan user who has never been involved in industry or a professional career setting.

Corporate executives don't sell the homes they live in because they got fired from their salaried position. Regular people who aren't part of the capital class do that stuff.

 

You are supposed to be part of the same class as these people and even you don't know the value of homes for career salaried professionals who have worked in the same field for 15+ years.

Are you making up your entire life story or are you expressing this specific argument in bad faith?

I don't know. You probably are from the same crowd that calls Bernie Sanders a hypocrite capitalist insider trader because he has 2 homes all totaling in like 5 million dollars in value after working on a 150 grand salary for 30 years which is like.... normal upper middle class type of thing.

 

@Rocketeer
@Salvy

 

Trump and Musk vs aoc, Pelosi and Warren

 

Was curious myself so I pasted her prompt.

To reshape the Democratic Party in the transformative mold of Trump’s Republican overhaul, a leader would need a distinct blend of attributes to galvanize a coalition while redefining the party’s identity. Drawing from recent analyses and political dynamics, here are the key qualities and potential figures who could embody this vision:

1. Charisma and Media Savvy

A successful leader must command public attention and inspire trust through compelling communication. Research on U.S. governors’ COVID-19 speeches found that charisma directly correlates with public compliance, with more charismatic leaders persuading constituents to adopt safer behaviors Historical examples like Reagan and JFK underscore how charm and rhetorical skill can sway elections

Potential Fit:

• Hakeem Jeffries (House Minority Leader) combines visibility with a disciplined media presence. His ability to articulate Democratic priorities in sharp contrast to GOP extremism positions him as a unifying voice
• Ken Martin (new DNC Chair), while less nationally prominent, has leveraged grassroots organizing and a populist economic message to build Minnesota’s Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party into a 25-election winning machine

2. Outsider Status or Unconventional Background

Trump’s disruption of the GOP hinged on his non-political pedigree. For Democrats, an “outsider” could mean someone untainted by DC establishment politics but still capable of navigating party structures. Studies note that outsiders like Macron and Sanders succeed by channeling anti-system energy while securing institutional support

Potential Fit:

• Ben Wikler (Wisconsin Democratic Chair), though part of the party apparatus, has criticized DNC reliance on big donors and consultants, advocating for small-donor fundraising and state-level investments. His alignment with progressive labor groups offers a bridge between insider credibility and reformist zeal
• Gavin Newsom (CA Governor) retains outsider appeal despite his tenure, particularly on issues like climate and tech regulation, but faces skepticism over elitist perceptions.

3. Clear, Bold Vision

The party needs a unifying, actionable agenda that breaks from incrementalism. Analysts argue Democrats lost working-class voters by failing to champion economic justice unapologetically Boldness, as seen in Minnesota’s progressive wins under Martin, requires policies like Medicare expansion, labor rights, and climate action paired with sharp contrasts against GOP extremism.

Key Example:

• Martin’s DNC platform emphasizes “multi-racial, multiethnic, multigenerational” coalitions and year-round voter engagement, mirroring Paul Wellstone’s playbook. His pledge to prioritize small donors over elites signals a break from past DNC orthodoxy.

4. Connection with the Base

Rebuilding trust requires authentic engagement with diverse constituencies, particularly young voters, working-class communities, and marginalized groups. Successful strategies include decentralizing power to state parties, partnering with local organizers, and addressing hyper-local concerns.

Critical Moves:

• Ilhan Omar (MN Congresswoman) highlights Ken Martin’s focus on “real relationships” with voters, contrasting with top-down DC strategies.
• Expanding outreach to rural and Rust Belt voters—through policies like childcare support and union backing—could reverse 2024 losses in swing states.

The Contenders

• Ken Martin currently holds the DNC reins, with a mandate to decentralize power, amplify economic populism, and mobilize underrepresented voters. His challenge lies in balancing reformist energy with institutional inertia7.
• Hakeem Jeffries offers media-ready leadership and a bridge between progressive and moderate factions but risks being constrained by Washington politics.
• Dark Horses: Figures like Pennsylvania’s John Fetterman (blending outsider authenticity with populist appeal) or Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer (pragmatic progressive) could emerge if they expand their national profiles.

For Democrats, the path forward demands a leader who can channel grassroots energy into a cohesive movement while avoiding the pitfalls of elitism and donor dependency. The party’s survival hinges on whether its new leadership can marry bold policy with relational politics—a lesson underscored by both recent defeats and historic turnarounds
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Bit less depressing. I think DNC chairs like Ken Martin are more strategists than banner carriers. Howard Dean comes to mind. He face planted himself in the primaries but recovered his image when they rebounded from the midterms under his lead.

In terms of public office, it didn't transfer to anything further for Dean though.

 

Next I asked reexamine with people middle America would like and vote for. This could mean promoting entirely different policies from traditional Dem platform for the last 2 decades

To reshape the Democratic Party for Middle America, the next leader must bridge the gap between traditional progressive values and the economic realities of working-class voters in swing states. Recent electoral setbacks highlight the urgency of prioritizing cost-of-living relief, border security, and policies that resonate beyond coastal urban centers. Below are key figures and strategies aligned with this shift:

1. Economic Populism with Tangible Results

Middle America’s top concerns—inflation, housing costs, and wage stagnation—demand policies that directly alleviate financial strain. While Kamala Harris emphasized housing construction and grocery price caps1, Democrats lost ground by failing to counter Trump’s tax-cut messaging67. A revamped agenda should:

• Expand tax relief for working families (e.g., child tax credits, retirement savings incentives).
• Invest in rural infrastructure (broadband, manufacturing) to rebuild the “Blue Wall” in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania49.
• Regulate corporate price-gouging, as Senator Bob Casey’s “greedflation” framing attempted1, but with clearer enforcement mechanisms.

Potential Leaders:

• Josh Shapiro (PA Governor): Won 2022 by 15 points in a swing state by championing education funding and voting rights while avoiding polarizing cultural fights8. His bipartisan criminal justice reforms and focus on small businesses appeal to moderates.
• Ruben Gallego (AZ Congressman): A Marine veteran pushing union-backed job programs and veterans’ healthcare, Gallego connects with working-class Latino voters4, a demographic that shifted toward Trump in 20247.

2. Border Security and Immigration Pragmatism

Hispanic voters’ growing concern over immigration’s economic impact—63% of California Hispanics now view unauthorized immigrants as a “burden”7—signals a need for Democrats to balance compassion with enforcement. Successful candidates will:

• Advocate for border technology upgrades and faster asylum processing.
• Avoid activist rhetoric that alienates voters prioritizing rule of law79.

Example:

• Gretchen Whitmer (MI Governor): Her “Fix the Damn Roads” mantra and bipartisan infrastructure deals model how to address practical needs without ideological baggage4. A similar focus on border staffing and fentanyl interdiction could rebuild trust.

3. Cultural Moderation and Local Engagement

The “believability gap”2 stems from perceptions that Democrats prioritize coastal elites over heartland values. To counter this:

• Decentralize party power to state chapters, as Justice Democrats advocate5, empowering local leaders on issues like agriculture and energy.
• Highlight “kitchen-table” issues over divisive social debates. Former President Clinton’s 1992 playbook9, which avoided culture wars, remains relevant.

Standout Figures:

• Raphael Warnock (GA Senator): A pastor who won in a red state by blending social justice advocacy with support for HBCUs and rural hospitals8. His faith-based outreach counters GOP inroads with religious voters.
• Andy Beshear (KY Governor): Though not mentioned in results, his pro-union, anti-abortion-ban stance in a deep-red state exemplifies pragmatic messaging.

4. Fresh Faces, Relatable Backgrounds

Middle America distrusts “coastal elites,” favoring leaders with working-class roots or military service. Potential contenders include:

• Chris Deluzio (PA Congressman): A cybersecurity expert and Iraq War veteran focusing on factory revitalization in Rust Belt districts.
• Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (WA Congressman): An auto repair shop owner who flipped a GOP seat by emphasizing skilled trades and rural broadband5.

The Path Forward

Democrats must pivot from donor-driven priorities to a multi-ethnic working-class coalition27. This means:

• Dropping unpopular policies like defunding police or sweeping student debt forgiveness, which alienate voters facing daily economic strains67.
• Championing apprenticeships and vocational training to appeal to non-college voters, who now lean Republican7.

Leaders like Shapiro, Warnock, and Gallego offer templates for blending progressive values with Middle American pragmatism. Without this shift, Democrats risk permanent erosion in the battleground states that decide elections.
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To the MAGA’s

Why is it better to have a corrupt autocracy where our freedoms are stripped than to elect one of these Democrats (if you are to be believed) are so stupid and pathetic while retaining a democratic system that allows you to retain your freedoms and self determination along with your right to vote??

I mean Trump is literally telling you to your face he is above the law, and that he’s staying in office after 2028… constitution be damned. Why is that better than a normal Democrat that you don’t like because they have a cackle, or danced to Phoenix on a rooftop in high school, or have a funny name, etc??

Just for once tell me why a corrupt autocracy is better if we are to believe you that Democrats are bad but we know we can still retain a democracy??? Why is that better for me??

Also since I’m kind of a data and facts guy.. what examples do you have of corrupt autocracies where it has led to a thriving economy for the working and middle class that is better than what we’ve had the past 30 years or so????

@Os Trigonum @Space Ghost @Commodore @bigtexxx @raining threes

 

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