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He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Feb 16, 2025.

  1. Nook

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    Things can and do change quickly in politics - especially modern American politics.

    The Republicans were an absolute mess and that is how Trump won the nomination the first time. Then, as an incumbent in the middle of a national disaster he lost….. now two impeachments later … he is President again with a majority in Congress, Senate and the Supreme Court.

    We saw the “shocks” and problems that emerged from COVID to the economy and how institutions are viewed more negatively now …. There will be major shocks and consequences from Trump firing seasoned and capable apolitical bureaucrats, removing safe guards in the Constitution, recklessly allowing access to information that is top secret… alienating US allies and starting a multi front trade war.

    There is at a least going to be a lot of apprehension in financial circles and that will negatively impact the economy… and when it does, assuming open elections, Trump acolytes will be voted out of office IF Democrats in public office grow a spine. So yes, in as little as two years Congress will matter and can be no longer Republican.
     
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  2. deb4rockets

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    It has to be. I mean he talks about stupid stuff like Hunter doing drugs and being with prostitutes. Doesn't he realize that's President Trump and Trump Jr?

    He should be more concerned that Trump is plotting with his billionaire friends to make them all oligarchs, at the cost of the rest of America, or that our President is bending a knee and praising the Dictators and Authoritarians of the world now and treating our Western Allies as the bad guys.
     
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  3. JuanValdez

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    Sure, the House could be in play in 2026. But that's not yet. Deb's consternation was that congressmen would stand around while our democracy fails. If that happens, it'll happen before the 2026 elections. Maybe if our fortunes tank badly -- pretty speculative -- Republican congressmen will revolt before then. But barring that, I'm saying the heavy lifting today is with NGOs, the states, lawyers and courts. The 119th Congress won't do much to help. Not saying not to work on positive outcomes from the 2026 elections, but that's for later. It is the other democratic institutions we need to put our hope in right now.
     
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    Sadly, people are stupid enough to believe this.
     
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    The Democrats have a long way to go before they can even try to stand up to President Elon Trump.

    What you have now is Hakeem Jeffries talking about Elon Trump's actions and statements as,

    "Very disturbing. And last night, the President asked me to kiss his taint."
    "Musk or Trump?"
    "Trump."
    "What'd you do?"
    "I kissed that taint. But I was very disturbed. Thankfully, I didn't get pinkeye. Then I'd be 'quite disturbed'."
     
  6. Andre0087

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    ...and repeat it over and over again like a person with short term memory issues.
     
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  7. Tomstro

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    The left absolutely insists on perpetuating the horrible racial divide in this country that they created. They need it. It’s all they have. It’s gonna crumble though, already has started to. When they can’t scream racism at you, they really have nothing left.

    Go through almost every thread and watch how every single time the lefties start throwing around “white supremacy”, “Racist”, “Hitler”, “fascism” because it’s all they have. They don’t even realize they are the true racists. Maybe they do. Who cares.
     
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  8. Tomstro

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    Skin color is the only reason you wanted Kamala. Stop calling others racist. Skin color matters way too much to you.
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    Ok . . Let's play a game

    I'm willing to bet . .. I have voted for more White Males
    Than you have voted for women and/or Minorities . . .combined

    In Fact can you name the minorities and or women you have voted for? Any?

    I suspect your answer will be something like. . .
    I voted on merit and qualifications and it just happened to always be a Hetero White Male

    Rocket River
     
  10. Tomstro

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    You’re an idiot

    race is all that matters to you

    proven once again
     
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  11. Rocket River

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    TOMSTRO BE LIKE: [​IMG]



    Looks like someone NEVER voted for a Minority or a Woman

    [​IMG]

    Rocket River
     
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  12. Tomstro

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    And proven once again
     
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    You're exactly right. It's a waste of time trying to explain anything to them. They don't treat minorities like equals. They treat them like they can't help themselves or are incapable. If you aren't a lefty on here you're a racist to these people. It's absolutely ridiculous.
     
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  14. GOATuve

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    Nope. The country spoke. She is garbage. I hate Trump but he's certainly better
     
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    What do you hate about Trump?
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    So, by this logic, if someone assassinated Trump, to save the country, that isn't murder?

    DD
     
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    It amazes me how some on here seem to believe that we are better as a country if we are governed like the Dictators, Oligarchs, and Authoritarians of the world Trump idolizes. It amazes me that people prefer us ally with those type regimes, where corruption runs rampant, and torture, police brutality, or assassinations are imposed at will by the leaders who run them.

    How can people prefer we ally with regimes that spit on Democratic values and human rights at the blink of an eye? I don't want to live under governments like that? Saudi Arabia? No thank you, especially as a non-muslin or woman. North Korea? Absolutely not. Russia? Absolutely not. Saudi Arabia might not be as corrupt as North Korea or Russia but they are all nothing like us, or any other Western world countries that fight for human rights and have true Democracies.

    North Korea is a totalitarian dictatorship with a comprehensive cult of personality around the Kim family. Amnesty International considers the country to have the worst human rights record in the world.

    Putin's system is rent extraction at every level. Formal institutions, therefore, matter only to the extent that they support graft, and who-gets-what is determined informally by the most senior figures in the system. These men—and increasingly, their sons and daughters—are connected through various cadres. Appreciating this is critical to understanding how Russian governance works. Competence is less important than loyalty, and embezzlement is an entitlement commensurate with rank. This is what Trump wants, and what he is doing. Loyalty above competence. As such, it is no wonder that the basis of Alexei Navalny's political opposition was anticorruption. Navalny "gave his life for a free and democratic Russia" and called for the release of all political prisoners in the country. We all know how that ended up. Is this the type government we want, with oligarchs stealing from the poor and middle class? The scary thing is, with ruthless self-serving billionaires in charge of our country we could be on our way to paralleling Russia.

    Trump pretends to support free press and free speech, yet we know what happens in countries he prefers to ally with when most media is controlled or owned by the government or its leader and filled with propaganda and lies. He himself is a spewer of propaganda and lies, and he and his sidekick spread it through their own personally owned media sites. All news not Trump approved is fake news. Do you support siding with countries where the leader demands that his truth is the only truth, and everyone else must refrain from any objections to the words spoken by him as false, or untrue, or be arrested, tortured, or assassinated? You side with them over true Democracies in Western Europe? Do you agree with leaving NATO to please the leaders who hate true Democracies? Leaders with so much greed and power, and will do anything to get it?

    https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/06/corruption-and-the-russian-government-reshuffle.html
     
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  19. astros123

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    "Partsian cheerleading" lol Clinton did a 6 month study done by congress to look into how to cut the workforce while Musk is blindly eliminating anything he "deems" as waste.

    Youre such a ****ing weasel

    He does this **** in every thread to rehabilitate trump. He's a such a disingenuous boomer
     
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  20. Tomstro

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    It is definitely bold but maybe not blind. Also, it took Clinton and congress 6 months because they had to figure out how to cut costs AND keep the grift going.

    that’s complicated stuff
     

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