DODGE Penetrating Social Security: Lacking Expertise - What Could Go Wrong?

im starting to wonder is herr musk is the villain that literally every single james bond movie warned us about.

 

They just f*cking Lying

Rocket River

 

What? You don't trust a South African that only a few years ago said that he would move to China .... that has 13 kids....believes in preserving and passing on his superior genetics through arranged pregnancies .... and is cozy with the far right party in Germany?

 

No better time than the present to print out my SS earning statements...just in case.

 

To be fair to Musk -- naw, **** that, but at least to be fair to critics of federal agencies -- that we're still operating large parts of our bureaucracy on freakin' COBOL is ridiculous. At the some point, an overhaul must be done. So people in the system aren't literally alleging to be 150 years old, but we do have blanks in an important data field. While I don't trust someone with an 18-month job horizon to be able to fix it properly, it does need fixing.

I know we probably over-index in IT people in this bbs, so I'll defer to someone else. But, as I understand it, you build the improved software infrastructure in DEV and it's not until you've done a lot of QA and UAT and other acronyms that you go switch to PROD. Is this the paradigm that DOGE is coming with? Are they just going to make a copy in DEV so they can launch a multi-year software implementation project? Or are they going live-beta? Not that I've been reading the IT trade press or anything, but I see surprisingly little discussion in DOGE news about their actual methodology.

That's the software infrastructure side. They also might have a data integrity problem. But there have been regular audits done of the SSA database. We are already aware there are people with no birthdays. That there are people impossibly old but not marked dead, but neither are they collecting. There are also SSNs of unofficially dead people that are used by illegal workers to pay into the system -- but can't get paid out. We know that some people were issued new numbers because their original SSN was corrupted by identity thieves. Compared to what we already know from audits, Musk's revelations look particularly uneducated and not new. Should we do something about it? Sure. But I don't see what value DOGE brings when you could have just done an EO to the head of the SSA that they should clean up the data.

My guess is that they want to use SSA data to find and deport illegal aliens who use fake numbers to work. Which, honestly, I don't have a big problem with so long as the legalities of observing people's constitutional right to privacy are addressed. These workers (and often their employers) are committing a crime by using a fake SSN, and you could use that data to track a fake SSN to the employer and then find out from the employer which worker is using that fake name and number. Regarding our privacy, I think there would be no problem for law enforcement to show probable cause to get a warrant to access an SSA record of a suspected identity thief. But, to search all the records of all Americans in a drag net to find the identity thieves would be constitutionally problematic. It would be like the NSA warrantless collection of communication metadata trying to find terrorists after 9/11. Or using facial recognition tech on cameras in public places to track people's movements in case they commit crimes. If we abrogate the 4th amendment to target illegal aliens, am I secure in my own papers and effects? I don't know that DOGE is looking to do that, but I don't have much confidence that the DOJ is going to do much to enforce the Privacy Act of 1974 that protects my data from that kind of search.

 

Completely agree - and it is an indication of how out of touch parts of the federal government are. The problem is that you do not have unvetted people come in, without any independent oversight and gut everything - it is a massive risk and it is unethical as can be.

 

Whats funny is that all his fan boys don't realize he'll not just abandon them but sacrifice them when the moment is convenient.

 

All I know is a lot of people will die from lack of medical care if DOGE comes after Medicare/Medicaid and ends care for all those dead people

 

What do you do for a living man?

 

Lol

 

I think every American is for finding abuse in any department, but you don't go in and fire everyone first and then do the research, this is not twitter, you have millions of people domestically and internationally that rely on us. When people say the government should be run like a business I cringe because the PEOPLE are the stakeholders and the beneficiaries. And then firing all of the Inspector Generals who watch for fraud and waste was just dumb............who is going to pick up all the pieces when he is done and grifted more for his companies and causes. It could take years to know what the effects are and people's lives could be in danger. IMO musk is worse than trump and how the gop has "allowed" this will not bode well for their constituents who will be denied snap and assistance which resonates throughout the red states. I am surprised conservative gop members are allowing this, but I shouldn't be...............they have all bent the knee and I hope when its time to vote they are kicked out, I feel at this point all I can do is sit back and watch this train wreck. Hell, I am even thinking about doing something to my 401K which has been on fire for the last 4 years.

 

Hating on the CCP...

 

Where’s the litigation?