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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. gmoney411

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    Bari took a lot more 3s pre all star break as a rookie. After the all star break he only took 3 a game and his overall splits were much better for the last 2 months. Pre all star break Bari was a terrible shooter but I have no idea how to do the TS% math to compare it to Reed. However, I'm guessing it's similar because his FG% for his first 5 months were 32/37/43/38/37.

    I was replying to your comment that Bari never shot 27% from 3 with a 41% YS% but the raw numbers of Bari make me believe that he got real close to that pre all star break as a rookie.
     
  2. astrosrule

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    If Reed isn't an elite shooter it's a bad pick, period. Jabari w/o a 3 pt shot is a very poor starter/bench player because he has zero other offensive skills. Can't dribble, can't pass, can't do anything. People forget just how horrendous jabari was as a rookie, because he's now a valuable player with his defense and size.
     
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    30% is better than 27% so I am sure Jabari never scored 41% TS.
     
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    As horrendous as he is he still better than Sheppard RN.
     
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    If neither player can shoot 3s Reed is out of the league and Bari is an end of the bench player. Bari's intangibles are not good enough to makeup for not being able to space the floor. Both players are huge busts with no shot but Reed is the only one that probably couldn't even make a roster.
     
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    maybe, barely. He was truly god awful though as most rookies are.
     
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    Both were absolute garbage shooters pre all star break as rookies. Bari at best was slightly better in a way that makes no tangible difference on the court. Comparing their shooting at this same point in their careers is a very fair comparison.
     
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    This right here. Both were absolute trash shooters at the same point in their careers and Bari actually had the benefit of free reign and being able to shoot himself out of a slump. Reed is on the shortest of leashes which makes it even harder as a shooter that is struggling.
     
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    If Bari had nothing, he would still be a 6 Foul body to use sparingly......I do not see that with a 6'2 combo guard.....

    The Rockets need a 38% shooter like a desert longs for a drop of water.

    And he was advertised as the most ready rookie other than Edey.

     
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    Ya, ros hates reed the way i hate draymond though so he's been loving this poor start from reed. If he sucks again next season though, i'll be concerned.
     
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    Ya jabari could still be an 11th or 12th man minimum salary type, reed will be useless if he can't shoot.
     
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    ????

    Paint Defense, rebounding, putbacks, dunks and ft shooting. All things Sheppard hasnt done (besides 1 dunk I guess).

    Jabari was still starter early in the season when his 3 pt wasnt falling. When he got injured Rox defense went from 2nd to 4rth. This argument is just wrong.
     
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    Completely agree. But I have no real interest in having Bari on the team as a 30% shooter and I'm guessing the Rockets wouldn't either.
     
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    You said numbers in your original post not shooting. Numbers include more than shooting.
     
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    Nah Jabari was shooting below 30% from 3 and was still the starter early in the season. You are just wrong.
     
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    You should go take a look at Bari's early shooting numbers. He struggled nowhere to the level of what he did as a rookie to start this season. Bari is great for team defense and switching but if he's a consistently a 30% 3 point shooter he's not a regular rotation player.
     
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    You said if Bari was shooting 30% 3 pt he would be an end of bench player. That facts show he shot below 30% for the first 15 games and was still the starter this year. Based on the facts you are making a wrong argument.

    Why are you even insisting this when the facts show you are wrong?
     
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    I have a feeling that Reed is a later bloomer but the problem is again the Rockets are on some kind of time line and Udoka is expediting rather than slowing things down to prove to the league that his sexual adventures should be forgotten.

     
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    I hope you aren't being serious. I only listed 3 point percentage and closed by staying it is a fair comparison between guys that were supposed to be great shooters out of college. If you think I was talking about anything other than shooting then I will say again that it's a reading comprehension failure on your part.
     
  20. roslolian

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    You said stats and numbers if you only meant just 3 pt percentage you mean you dont know difference between singular and plural?

    I listed his STATS pre ASB -> just means 3 pt?
    If you look at Jabari's NUMBERS -> just means 3 pt?

    If you just meant 3 pt why not say 3 pt? There is an english word for it for a reason.
     

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