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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Aruba77

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    I’m now confused about Jalen’s numbers but it has felt like he’s plummeted back to earth since late January. I still believe he’s improved the shooting, but we have to wait till the end of the season to really assess. Overall I don’t believe in near maxing inconsistent players, which Jalen still clearly is. I still think the shooting is gonna be under league average for starting 2-guards. I still see poor handles. I still see him struggle to finish at the rim against competent defenders. I still see plenty of bad decision making. I still think he’s overpaid, but if he can finish the year strong he should be super tradable. I just can’t handle the swings and without a really good shooting point guard I think we are better off with a good shooting 2.

    if I’m wrong and Jalen balls out pretty consistently for the rest of the season I’ll be very happy. But I think it’s the mentality that we can count on. He’s up and he’s down and to me that’s not great.

    Jalen’s defense has truly been a revelation. And I respect that he’s played through adversity. He’s earned some respect. But I don’t think he’s a guy to build around and I still think we move him this summer.
     
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    You addressed none of my points, just wanted to call me bro. Got it.

    one of the highest net ratings in the West

    Yes, our team has a good net rating. Jalen is 14th on our team in net rating. I know that real data doesn't matter to you, you just want to call people haters. Jalen's net rating is below everyone on the team except for Jock and Jeff.

    starting SG who gets the most shots

    With the worst shooting percentages among all starting point guards. Proving my point again.
     
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    Maybe Morey will help Houston before he gets canned. Green and picks for Maxey
     
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    we need nico for green-maxey trade.noone accept this except nico
     
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    This is just what he does. Ignores you, writes a bunch of **** and calls you bro.
     
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    When discussing Jalen Green it seems all start and end points are arbitrary.

    I don’t recall this situation with any other player….ever.

    Hopefully someday before he retires I guess.
     
  8. astrosrule

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    Jalen is so weird, there’s never been anyone like him. He’s basically the 150th-200th best player for 33 games, than like top 5 for 8, and immediately back to terrible. It’s like if a baseball player was terrible for 5 months but randomly bonds for 3 weeks.
     
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    Jalen has the 14th net rating on the Rockets. So, where do you think he ranks on the Rocket's roster in terms of importance and play?
     
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    Fred, alpi, amen, tari, jabari he can’t touch. I assume even you agree with that? Jalen vs brooks is close though
     
  11. hlmbasketball

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    I think they reasoning behind your analysis is that you DON’T watch enough basketball. I think you watch HIGHLIGHTS of other players and compare that to JG.

    Every NBA player has ups and downs during the course of a long NBA season. His stands out because you analyze him every game but if you go on any other team's fan page, they are complaining about a star player and wanting trades.....THEY SOUND A LOT LIKE YOU
     
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  13. astrosrule

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    Lol the only highlights i watch are Jokic. Of course all players have ups and downs, but jalen is so polar. He was HORRIBLE for 33, INCREDIBLE for 8, HORRIBLE since. Nobody else is like that
     
  14. hlmbasketball

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    If you watch ONE players highlights, you watch OTHERS....Come on dude!

    And 33 bad games and 8 good games?? You're not a fan, you're a HATER
     
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    I mean that's what happened....denying it won't change reality.
     
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    It was similar with Jeremy Lin discussion. It's just that many Rockets fans are more annoyed at the Jeremy Lin fans themselves than the inconsistencies of Jeremy Lin as a player. But there's actually a lot of similarities in how these two guys are perceived depending on which perspective you view them in.
     
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    I very specifically told you why I didn't address your points intentionally so quit the drama. There's no reason to waste time doing that when the premise is not even reasonable.

    You can list as many stats about Jalen you don't like here, it's not going to matter when your argument and the reality of the situation doesn't match. The are no players on this roster who don't have several bad stats we can pick out, that doesn't define them. Just like it wouldn't matter if I flooded you with good Jalen stats, that's not the whole picture. The whole picture is: with all the flaws you stated, he's also the leading scorer, clutch player, highest gravity player, best contested shot taker and most available player on the roster. That's just a few things the you would have to add onto your analysis so that it's not a witch-hunt.

    The 5th best starter on a team like ours flat out has to be more than what you're describing for us to be where we are. You might not mind wasting my time on something useless but I do.

    Jalen was being talked about as an all star this season on the biggest shows on television by people who don't like guys who will always be inefficient in the future. Do you understand how far from reality you are?

    Do you really think we're going to believe Jalen is the 14th best player on the roster just because you discovered player net rating last week and don't yet understand its limitations?
     
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    The thing about the inconsistency of Jalen and Alpi (to some extent) is that even when they're in a slump, they're still the two guys on the team that defenses game plan on and focus on during play. Jalen can go 3-15 and 1-8 from three with 5 turnovers and he'll still be drawing two defenders, or at least have an extra guy leaning his way. Same with Alpi, even when he's sucking, he draws extra attention because nobody in their right mind sees him as an easy cover.
     
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    I agree that any "last x games" is arbitrary. A lot of times it is used to support some kind of narrative, either positive or negative. His up and down swings are very extreme. So if you catch the right "past games" you can always show how bad or how good he is.

    One thing I think everyone would agree. As the lead scorer of the team, our offense pretty much goes up and down with his offensive performance. Since his overall performance is less than optimal, our offense isn't very good. If not for our elite offensive rebounding, we'd probably be in the bottom third of the league in offensive rating. That's not all Jalen's fault. We simply have no one else that can take over the lead scorer role. And I still think there are better ways to use our players.
     
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  20. jogo

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    You can't address my points so you call it drama. Very predictable.

    In calling me bro incessantly I think you you use a lot of words that you don't actually know what they mean. Are you getting AI to write your posts? You don't say anything that makes me think you know what the word "nuance" means, for example.

    If you really are in high school, then I think you're making a bad representation of teenagers out there. Know that your method of discussion online doesn't really foster anything but a chance for you to whine about how people don't agree with your overly simplistic points. No one could waste your time more than you do on your own drivel.

    I haven't seen anyone mention Jalen as an all star this season. It doesn't matter to mean who says that on a "biggest show." Either you made that up or that are just as out of touch as you are.

    You tried to bring up net rating but then when you were shown how it didn't apply to Jalen you poo-pooed it. I think you know nothing about even basic statistics so brush up on that before you try to argue with me.

    Away with you.
     

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