The sanctions didn't work because Russians were selling it to India who sold it elsewhere. Ukraine had no chance from the get go. It is what it is.
That's the thing, Putin's ability to project power is so weak and crappy (3 day war now on year 3) they can't actually take over *even part* of UKraine without the assistance of Hegseth & Trump & Elon's criminal gang of neo nazi ****wads. Pathetic self-own for a once-great nation that was maybe never quite as great as it thought it was, but never nearly as bad and pathetic as this. Great day for Putin Piss Babies & certified america haters like @Space Ghost and @glynch
Trump is not a serious person, Trump will sell out the whole lot for a Trump Tower Moscow promise. EU and the non-US NATO members need to take the steering wheel here. Ukraine needs a sturdy post-war security agreement, as the starting point for peace negotiations. Russia will want to re-start this war in years down the road, after they have rebuilt their military. EU and the non-US NATO members to do what is necessary to prevent this.
It's obvious that Trump doesn't consider Russia to be the counterparty from whom he needs to wring concessions, its Ukraine. Trump always prefaces negotiations by taking away or threatening the thing his counterparty holds most dear (e.g., we're going to take back control of the Panama Canal!). On this deal, he didn't go after anything of Russia's (he threatened tariffs when we have little trade, and sanctions which have been dialed up for years anyway). Instead he went after the things Ukraine wants - territorial integrity and security guarantees. Zelensky should go ahead and consider the US an enemy now and focus on courting Europe. An American-brokered peace deal will be just about the worst deal they can get. This graph. Shows activity over 5 hours. And the y-axis ranges from 3,000 to 3,090. Makes insignificant noise in the market look like a massive boost by zooming in really close.
Roll back? That's rich coming from someone talking out both sides of their mouth..... you don't want to help Ukraine against Russia's war of conquest but you'll certainly mock and mischaracterize what we do to aid. Is Russia currently stronger and in a better place than before the war? Objectively no. Their own imperialist plan for maintaining their empire hit a major road block. That's a bit of mischaracterization as well... and is more by necessity. As if Ukraine doesn't want F35s to evade Russian air defenses and deliver much larger and more powerful attacks. Lost? I think people are arguing that Putin's war of conquest was costly and setback his imperialist goals. He's weaker now in central asia. And we will see However, Trump may throw Putin a lifeline.
Lol, the US Navy now can't beat Russia according to SecDef? Last time I checked - the Moskva & a lot of the rest of the Black Sea Fleet was at the bottom of the ocean after largely losing the Naval battle to Ukraine* *Does not have an open water Navy
I agree with all of that. Americans might hate ownership of Ukraine right now but judging how we reacted in polls after Afghanistan, we hate losing even more. Trump's challenge will be to convince Americans he came out like a winner even if the deal is a fat ****ing joke. If he thinks similarly, then it might be easier for him to play with the leverage he has against Putin for a better Ukraine deal. Ukraine has some guaranteed American funding for most of the year and the EU outside of Poland is still years behind rebuilding their military. A full commitment is scary but they desperately need to make one if they want to get their **** together...or is it the other way around?
People act like Europe is weak militarily, they just aren't coordinated. There are some individually powerful nations but Putin is doing everything he can to isolate.
I believe war mongers like you place a low value on humanity and actually believe some lives are better than others. I see the end of massive amounts of death. You see your ideology being wounded.
F35's? What are you even talking about? F35's were never seriously talked about for good reasons. First, you don't pull up in an f35 and say 'oh lets go kill us some ruskies'. Maintenance, training and everything that comes with it. You literally think these are just little high tech flying toys anyone can manage and fly. Second, there is no way the west is going to allow Russia to shoot down one and collect the wreckage over a proxy war. Third, Russias air defense is pretty solid. The F35 is not a super advanced craft that is complete immune to anything and everything. lol @ thinking f35's would somehow help Ukraine achieve victory.
Your anti-democratic/pro-autocratic nationalistic ideology which has contributed to the political movement that has led to the rise of authoritarianism in the world will get hundreds of thousands if not millions of people killed eventually. Mark my words. You and your BS ideology are a cancer on the human race, and that has been proven over and over and over again in our history. I hope to be wrong of course, but the history is clear. When people like you champion anti-Democratic pro corruption autocratic dictatorships, normal people suffer, and humanity is lost. So go fck off with your gaslighting. You are no anti-war dove, and not one person here should listen to a word of your hypocritical bullsh$t.
Germany is more than capable of taking the lead, and being a dominate military super power on the world stage. However they have a ... some would say "checkered".... past history when given the reigns to lead Europe militarily WHICH IS WHY the world has seen it to be important that THE UNITED STATES as a DEMOCRACY remain a leader in the world in a way that allows Europe to stay segmented, and only united under the NATO defensive agreement. In the vacuum left by the United States with Trump doing what he is going to do, it allows that vacuum to take place that Europe collectively all agreed after WW2 shouldn't be there to allow for fascistic far right movement to come into play, and take over a Germany or France, or Great Britain. Because the world remembers what happens when there is a vacuum.
Do what you really want to do. Send me off to a concentration camp so I will be executed. Here is the difference between you and I; I don't think you're evil, just misguided and naive. You literally called me a cancer. You think I am evil despite never wishing harm on anyone.
Millions of people here in the United States... at least 77 million of them knowingly voted for a convicted Criminal running to literally be "dictator on day 1." You are not special by any means. Your craving for a strongman to make you "feel" good by owning the libs on the internet is nothing unique. Humanity throughout history has constantly gone back to the well of opting for the illusion of a strongman instead of owning up to the hard work of actually trying to make the world a better place by community/democratic civilization. What you represent is the easy path. The other path is hard. You are no victim either. You are not going to be threatened by being sent to Guantanamo. That is just your fantasy complex where you have to feel so special that what you do and say is so unique that you must be silenced by those who are oppressing you. In the end you are just another lazy human who instead of facing hard truths, points and blames at "the other" while using what civic power you have to just put strongmen in power as a way to punish those that you blame for your sad life. I do not hate you because you represent alot of us.... and in the end as a species all we have is each other even as half of us are our own worst enemies, and just find it easier to blame rather than roll up their sleaves and work together.
Again… you think the West is the aggressor. Russia could have not caused any death by not invading Ukraine but that’s lost on war mongers such as yourself.
LOL. It was meant as a comparison, but you can swap F35s for F16s and Ukraine would still prefer to access to weapon systems that can hit harder, more accurately, and further. Point is that cheap drone warfare hasn't replaced other weapon systems. BTW, Israel showed how the F35s can easily evade the Russian air defense systems Iran has deployed.
