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DOGE having access to government agencies is illegal

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. Tomstro

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    Being a democrat isn’t really a man thing.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    It is 100% a real man thing.

    Be a leader, not a follower, be educated about subjects and their depth, don’t blindly follow a convicted felon, think for yourself.

    DD
     
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  3. Tomstro

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    Sure buddy
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Not your buddy, my buddies are not lemmings like you.

    DD
     
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  5. Tomstro

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    Like you were thinking for yourself when you voted for all this corruption that has been unearthed?

    The dems are squealing like little piggies as the layers of corruption and waste are peeled back.
     
  6. Tomstro

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    I saw a post from you the other day where you cried about someone insulting you.
     
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    Let’s talk about what VP Gore, under Clinton, did with the National Performance Review.

    Spoiler for details:

    Creation and Initial Report (1993): NPR’s six-month review led to a report with 384 recommendations aimed at saving $108 billion, including cutting 252,000 federal jobs and reducing regulations.

    Implementation of Phase I (1993-1994): NPR focused on reducing overhead and creating "Reinvention Laboratories" to test new government functions. Customer service standards were developed for 150 agencies.

    Phase II (1995): Phase II reexamined agency missions, cut 16,000 pages of regulations, and introduced Performance-Based Organizations (PBOs) to increase accountability. It aimed for $70 billion in savings.

    Results and Long-Term Impact: By 1995, one-third of NPR's recommendations had been implemented, saving $58 billion. Congress adopted several suggestions, including reducing the federal workforce and eliminating unfunded mandates.

    That’s actually a good example of improving government efficiency in phases to ensure that functions aren’t disrupted and to avoid chaos throughout the system, which ultimately led to a good outcome - a balanced budget and debt reduction (until Bush Jr. came in and recklessly cut taxes for the rich while increasing spending).

    This is NOTHING like what this administration is doing. Clinton didn’t strip away actual government "auditors" or remove inspector generals tasked with uncovering corruption, fraud, waste, and illegal activity. Instead, they conducted a proper study, reported the findings, and collaborated with Congress to implement changes. It wasn’t done through unchecked dictates, without oversight or factual analysis, asking people to simply "trust me, the government," while recklessly dismantling whatever they pleased (arguablly very illegal). The person behind this current approach pushed known Russian disinformation about USAID. Rather than genuinely auditing the government and doing it lawfully, this creates the exact opposite: the potential for rampant fraud, corruption, errors, and systemic chaos. This isn’t smart effective government - it’s handing unchecked power to a single individual to make rapid, unilateral decisions.
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    Oh, please point out ONE SINGLE instance of corruption....please......or are you talking about Trump and his defrauding children's charities, or his defrauding with a fake University....????

    LOL - pointing out people's ignorance is not crying, my dear fellow.

    Just stick to beer and bubbas......that is where you seem to be.


    DD
     
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    You attach being a man to your political ideals? You sound like someone for roots for republicans like they’re a football team.
     
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  11. Tomstro

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    And you sound like someone who probably sucked at football
     
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    Let's be clear. To believe a bunch of billionaire and trillionaire narcissist tech bros are out here combing through our federal government to help save us Americans money is a level of naiveness equivalent of a child believing their flushed down dead pet goldfish is traveling to heaven.

    I hope you understand when someone defends what's going on with the federal government now and isn't a billionaire(I assume you aren't), they are calling out to everyone around them that they are peak targets for scammers. Like if you believe in DOGE, I want your email address and phone number because I think I can scam you with some low effort phishing. You have to be a stupid person to believe Elon Musk is out here saving America.
     
  13. Tomstro

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    Congress approves funding for State dept or Us aid and then they just give it to NGOs

    So if the money is govt money is it really an NGO? It’s a giant slush fund for the left.
    We are paying for lefty commie ideas to be pushed on the Country.

    USaid gives money to catholic charities who then helps millions of migrants jump the border,
    which also means the republicans in congress are p*****s.

    The federal government is being revealed as one giant money laundering scheme.

    There is going to be a tax revolt. Anyone who owes is already filing extensions
     
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    Buddy if you think there is cabal of leftists trying to turn African kids trans or something because they are that ideologically committed to their cause, you are prime candidate for phishing schemes meant for 80 year old dementia patients.

    Both Donald Trump' GOP and the Democrat party want to maintain American hegomony as in they want America to have the most leverage in international trade and politics like that has existed for the past 3 quarters of a century.

    USAID is another tool in the toolkit to maintain US hegomony through soft power. To think a admin that has expressed happiness about returning to "manifest destiny" wants to end American global hegomony just doesn't make sense.

    Maybe they think they can maintain global hegomony through only using hard power with no chill by going full storm trooper to force poorer countries to allow us to extract labor and resources from them instead of doing that endeavor through some good will which is actually more cost effective than going full storm trooper.

    GOP voters are stupid in a sense that believe USAID exists as a altruistic endeavor. In fact Trump's entire narrative of prior administrations doing bad deals for Americans because of being "too nice" is absurdly naive. Like someone has to be a very naive person to believe we got USAID for the sole purpose of feeling good about ourselves.

    No the purpose of gutting USAID is privatization.

    See the American capital class is stuck with their maximization of wealth. They have maximized efficiencies, maximized economy of scale etc. There is no more sincere genuine innovation. Just charlatan salesmen trying to create the next pump and dump now. The only next viable step to obtain a new level of wealth is ransacking the federal government and replacing it private entities like Palantir so public money gets funneled into private capital to an entire new absurd level.

    The cyberpunkification of America is accelerating
     
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    You have moved on from “transactional” to “hegemony” being your favorite word to use in every post. I remember when it was “fascism” too. Keep reading.
     
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    Buddy if you think there is cabal of leftists trying to turn African kids trans or something because they are that ideologically committed to their cause, you are prime candidate for phishing schemes meant for 80 year old dementia patients.

    Both Donald Trump' GOP and the Democrat party want to maintain American global dominance as in they want America to have the most leverage in international trade and politics like that has existed for the past 3 quarters of a century.

    USAID is another tool in the toolkit to maintain US global dominance through soft power. To think a admin that has expressed happiness about returning to "manifest destiny" wants to end American global hegomony just doesn't make sense.

    Maybe they think they can maintain global dominance through only using hard power with no chill by going full storm trooper to force poorer countries to allow us to extract labor and resources from them instead of doing that endeavor through some good will which is actually more cost effective than going full storm trooper.

    GOP voters are stupid in a sense that believe USAID exists as a altruistic endeavor. In fact Trump's entire narrative of prior administrations doing bad deals for Americans because of being "too nice" is absurdly naive. Like someone has to be a very naive person to believe we got USAID for the sole purpose of feeling good about ourselves.

    No the purpose of gutting USAID is privatization.

    See the American capital class is stuck with their maximization of wealth. They have maximized efficiencies, maximized economy of scale etc. There is no more sincere genuine innovation. Just charlatan salesmen trying to create the next pump and dump now. The only next viable step to obtain a new level of wealth is ransacking the federal government and replacing it private entities like Palantir so public money gets funneled into private capital to an entire new absurd level.

    The cyberpunkification of America is accelerating.



    I fixed it for you. Now be a big boy and read and respond to what I actually had to say if you want to engage. If not just don't reply and we cool.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Yeah, Stephen Miller, JD Vance, Mike Johnson, Ted Cruz, Trump, were all great at football....BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH

    The GOP is following guys stuffed in lockers.......

    DD
     
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    You used to love “white supremacy” and that was in every post. Oh and “nazi” too. It’s fun watching you “grow”
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Time to put this nametag wearing Bubba on ignore until he FAFO, what him voting against his own families interest does....


    DD
     

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