@durvasa @Salvy @Os Trigonum @basso Lol Turkey don’t want Gaza either , they’d rather rebuild Syria too Gaza and Hamas are like the kid who’s the same race as you on the court but you’re not going to pick him on your team cause he sucks
your master is sad ,so you feel sad, though you have no clue of what's going on ..right! little buddy? you better print this and stick it to your fridge* your Golden calf sell you weapons but takes away Patriot batteries Tell you he supports you but tell you also Gaza to be his .. On his 1st day on job he told everyone "its thier war, not ours.." his defense secretary is a crusader who's upset about declining Christian population his administration is closed for renovation, other former allies no longer interested,their priorites has shifted.. Natanyahu looks more confused than you, loose lose situation , running in circles, freedom fighters have now food and fuel and could fight as long as needed
Why do you still post in this section after being exposed as the braindead loser as you exposed yourself. You literally said Trump would stand up to bibi and return gaza back to Palestinians. Imagine being such a braindead moron that you think the guy who moved the embassy to Jerusalem and signed a Muslim ban would somehow be pro Palestinian lol. Like i said earlier in this thread. Muslims are by far some of the most brainwashed morons anywhere in the world
^^^ 1800-TrumpICE : hello , I want to report this unhinged person, he identify as Jordanian refugee, British American ,2in1 CPAP and sex toys business owner in Eastern Indiana , but also he flip as another crazy self proclaimed CEO, he called his basement " Denmark " and his neighbour cow "wifey" please reserve his spot in Guantanamo,thanks.
You are the perfect encapsulation of a modern day muslim. A braindead individual who thinks dictators will rescue them. Daddy trump is going rescue muslims! Trump will stand up to bibi! Trump will solve everything! Historians will study muslims like yourself for an eternity. The dumbest generation of all time Jewish Americans are 100x more intelligent than Muslims
Thought I'd point out here that Trump's proposal to ethnically cleanse Gaza is a preamble to some negotiation. He starts every negotiation by first attacking something his counterparty thought they already had secured. In this case, he's attacking Palestinians' claim on Gaza. He hopes to use that threat to force Hamas to make some kind of concession in a deal and to make Palestinians a bit more cowed in daily life just so that they can hang onto the thing they used to have. I don't say that to let Trump off the hook for proposing that the US ethnically cleanse Gaza. It is an abhorrent thing to say, and doubly so when you speak for the United States. And I don't think he doesn't really mean it either. I think he doesn't expect that to be the outcome, but I also don't think he'll flinch if developments lead him in that direction. He is practicing brinksmanship, but he's using the threat of atrocities instead of mutually-assured nuclear destruction. For him, it's just his old art of the deal bs. But, he's doing a bang-up job recruiting for al Qaeda and sowing distrust and resentment all over the planet.
Don't see this same energy for actual ethnic cleansings currently occurring in the world. Selective and performative outrage.
I've still got a bit of a problem conflating "ethnic cleansing" with what's being proposed in Gaza in terms of rebuilding bombed-out areas. While I understand the term includes the forced relocation of ethnic groups, I think there's too much connotation with active genocide to be helpfully used here. But I understand that folks here may feel differently about it.
Leveling 90% of the urban area of a ethnic group of people and leaving 80-90% of the population of said ethnic group homeless and then taking the land and displacing the people to create investment opportunities to satisfy the wealth accumulation needs of capital interests is like the go to ethnic cleansing playbook. It's ethnic cleansing to the letter.
Forced relocation of an ethnic group, while also denying eventual right of return, is illegal under international law. It is a serious crime. That would be ethnic cleansing. Don't see that as conflation, just calling it what it is. I think not calling out the criminality of such an eventuality beforehand will probably make it more likely to occur.
Stop letting Trumpers have this olive branch to hook onto with the "Ethnic Cleansing" tag line. What Trump is essentially ordering America to do here is insane, and everything that MAGA cultists said they were against, and loved so much about Trump that he was not (or we were told he was not). We don't know what Trump using the US military would actually do once boots hit the ground in Gaza, but we know that either way, it will be catastrophe. It didn't work out in Saigon. It didn't work out in Baghdad. It didn't work out in Kabul. etc. etc. Starting another multi-trillion dollar middle east nation building project (with a hot war, or not) will NOT work out for the United States. It will NOT make us safer. It WILL cost us taxpayers alot. It WILL cost us allies, and it WILL create more and more terrorism. Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia are also not taking 2 million refugees. They will make Trump and Netanyahu own those people, and their blood will be on their hands. ALL of Trump's closest advisors that actually want him to succeed here have to be telling him to do ANYTHING else but this. For some reason though he just seems fixated, or obligated.... which I'm guessing is an obligation he owns BiBi maybe. Makes zero sense though, and watching Trumpers here bend over backwards to find some way of switching the argument to semantics is pretty pathetic, and telling of how incredibly stupid this is.
He's just trying to take you off into a semantic argument to try and deflect from the central premise. Which is telling how pathetic and desperate they are to provide cover for Trump here. Regardless of what you want to call it, what Trump is pushing for here is freaking insane, and should be 25th amendment territory.
and this is why it doesn't pay to make serious comments in this forum anymore, it's just an invitation to be constantly attacked
Hypothetically if all Gazans leave and the US eventually returns control to Israel to do with it as it pleases, do you trust an entity's leadership that calls Palestinians human animals that just made 80-90% of them become homeless and/or lose a close loved one to eventually allow them to return? So the concept of these actions being a ethnic cleansing squares entirely on Israel allowing Palestinians to return if they are all displaced in the future. There is no debate here that Trump wants the Palestinians to "temporarily" move so they can "rebuild". So that part of the plan isn't up for debate. What's in contention is whether you trust Israel to allow Palestinians to return.
I think this is bad faith chastising. I think it's self evident that this plan has strong potential to be an ethnic cleansing given Israel 's track record of not allowing right of return in the past for anyone of your literacy and education level. You aren't stupid. Hence why I hint a touch of insincerity with your terminology policing here.
There is no clear proposal, and there are somewhat mixed messages from Trump and Rubio. But forced relocation is the fear of what will transpire and with good reason given how things are trending. I think you'll find that a number of people in this thread and in Trump's party would be quite happy with that outcome. Trump did say in a recent interview that if the US obtains control of Gaza that there would be no right of return for its former residents. So there's that.
