Nope I just saw first hand how braindead a vast majority of Muslims are. I attended friday prayer and did phone banking for the Harris campaign and I came across huge swaths of Muslims who sincerely thought the Muslim ban guy would help Muslims. They thought the guy who moved the embassy from Tel aviv to Jerusalem was suddenly going to come to their rescue. Trump won arabs by almost a 2:1 ratio while issuing a muslim ban and killing 400k muslims in Yemen. Arab Muslims are sincerely some of the brainwashed people anywhere in the world.
You're very good at missing the point but quick to call people names. If you read my reply to your post, its very easy to comprehend what I was getting at. What modern democracy? Look up Senegal for example. But they're black Muslims so that doesn't count? When you're saying Muslims you mean Arabs only, right? Lol
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-...d?st=Tot9Pv&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink Trump’s Plan to Free Palestinians From Gaza The purpose of the strip is to keep them as perpetual refugees waging a forever war on Israel. By Elliot Kaufman Feb. 5, 2025 at 4:56 pm ET President Trump shocked the world with his proposal to resettle Gazans in nearby countries, but not because the idea is cruel. Few critics dispute his point that it would benefit the displaced to escape the “demolition site” of Gaza and live in peace rather than as cannon fodder. The real disturbance, after decades to the contrary, is to think seriously about what it would mean to put Palestinian lives first rather than sacrificing them to the lost cause of Palestine as their leaders always do. On Oct. 19, 2023, Hamas leader Khaled Mashal suggested that to achieve the dream of Israel’s destruction, and with it an Arab Palestine from the river to the sea, millions of Palestinians might have to die. The prospect doesn’t trouble him. Years earlier the Palestine Liberation Organization’s Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas turned down Israeli offers of statehood—unprecedented for a national liberation movement—and the Palestinian leader from the 1920s through the ’40s, Hitler ally Amin al Husseini, did much the same before and at Israel’s founding. Reimagining the failed Arab drive to wipe out the Jews, only a few years after the Holocaust, as a story of Palestinian victimization and valiant resistance to Zionist aggression is the essence of the lost cause. Each major Palestinian leader has preferred his own generation to suffer rather than consent to live alongside a Jewish state on any part of the Jewish homeland. This is the worst kind of nationalism, an eliminationist one that brings its people only misery. But Arab states have long indulged it. It relieved them of the burdens first of resettling Palestinians and then of starting and losing wars to annihilate Israel. Let Palestinians fight and die instead, Arab statesmen reasoned. The world plays along. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees was founded in 1949. It was supposed to resettle the displaced from the defeated Arab invasion and then disband. Instead, the Arab and Soviet blocs made Unrwa into a permanent international commitment to the lost cause. Mr. Trump’s Gaza idea flows naturally from his move Tuesday to end U.S. funding to Unrwa. He proposes to do the job Unrwa never would. Unlike the U.N. agency that handles all the world’s other refugees, Unrwa doesn’t resettle the Palestinians it serves. Its job is to keep them in forever-refugee status down into the third, fourth and soon fifth generation. This way, they stay poor and crowded in Gaza’s permanent refugee camps, whipped up for a final return to overwhelm the Jews. To this end, Palestinians are radicalized in Unrwa schools and kept on the international dole in the reserve army of the unemployed rather than encouraged to build institutions of their own. That’s the purpose of the Gaza Strip, from long before Hamas destroyed it by massacring Israelis and then fighting from every home, school and hospital. It’s a tiny piece of land, carved out by Egypt in 1949 to keep the Palestinians packed together at arm’s length—as Israel’s problem. With Unrwa providing all services and blocking its clients from building for the future, Gaza exists to trap Palestinians into war. It fits Hamas like a glove. The scandal isn’t that displaced Palestinians now could be “transferred” voluntarily out of Gaza; it’s that they have been forced to stay there—as Hamas’s shields during the war and among the ruins in its aftermath. Their incarceration by Unrwa and Egypt is the brutal status quo, strangely unchallenged until now. As the Journal’s editorial board noted in March, “Only when it can damage Israel does it become the liberal position to close the borders and keep refugees penned in a war zone.” Even as Arab states claimed Israel was slaughtering Palestinians indiscriminately, they insisted Gaza’s borders stay shut. When Palestinians tried to flee the war, as is their human right, Egypt forcibly closed the border—with the support of the international community. I wrote on these pages in May that backing Egypt in this decision was Joe Biden’s worst mistake of the war, making it longer, bloodier and less decisive than it ought to have been. When Mr. Trump says he would like to “resettle people permanently in nice homes and where they can be happy and not be shot, not be killed,” he is accused of inhumanity. The humane solution, by liberal lights, is to sacrifice another generation of Palestinians to permanent refugee status and a forever war on Israel. That’s what life in Gaza holds for them. Most Israelis, for their part, can hardly believe their good fortune. Leading political commentator Amit Segal quotes Psalms: “When the Lord restored the fortunes of Zion, we were like dreamers.” Nadav Eyal, his liberal counterpart, suggests Mr. Trump’s idea could be effective leverage for a Saudi deal. Let Riyadh take credit for saving Gaza by making peace with Israel. Others see the threat of U.S. control as a way to prod Arab states to take responsibility for Gaza. A new range of possibilities has opened up. Conservative publisher Rotem Sella writes, “Tonight, ‘total victory’ has turned from an abstract idea into a clear and near reality.” All know that a President Kamala Harris would sooner have suggested the evacuation of Israel than of Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gambled by resisting Mr. Biden’s conventional ideas for the “day after” the war, most of them likelier to hasten the next war than to bring peace. Now, in dealing with Mr. Trump, Israel can reap the reward. That’s what many find so intolerable about Mr. Trump’s idea. Not that it would hurt Palestinians—it would help them—but that it would set back the lost cause, which, profligate as ever with Palestinian lives, had seemed to prosper so wonderfully from the war in Gaza and the death squads’ work on Oct. 7, 2023. Mr. Kaufman is a member of the Journal’s editorial board. Appeared in the February 6, 2025, print edition as 'Trump’s Plan to Free the Palestinians'.
Whos saying black muslims or Pakitstani muslims dont count? What point are you even trying to make. Im telling you that Muslims are utterly brainwashed. Trump won the musims vote overwhelmingly even after promising a muslim ban. Muslims as a whole are very brainwashed in America. I dont know what you're trying to get out of me.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-...5?st=FcXFez&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink About Those Beachfront Gaza Condos Critics deride Trump’s idea, but what are they offering Palestinians? By The Editorial Board Feb. 5, 2025 at 5:52 pm ET President Trump’s idea that the U.S. might remove and relocate some two million Palestinians from Gaza and then “own” and rebuild the strip isn’t going to happen soon, if ever. But the idea, however preposterous, does have the virtue of forcing the world to confront its hypocrisy over the fate of the Palestinian people. The reaction to Mr. Trump’s flyer was predictably hyperbolic. Some called it “ethnic cleansing,” as if the U.S. military would round up two million Gazans against their will. Others criticized Mr. Trump for U.S. imperialism, contrary to his campaign theme of deriding foreign interventions. For those reasons and more, his Gaza daydream is fanciful. But note that Mr. Trump expressed admirable sympathy for the Palestinians and their plight. The Gaza strip “has been a symbol of death and destruction for so many decades and so bad for the people anywhere near it,” he said Tuesday at a press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Who could disagree with that? He went on to say “we should go to other countries of interest with humanitarian hearts, and there are many of them that want to do this and build various domains that will ultimately be occupied by the 1.8 million Palestinians living in Gaza, ending the death and destruction and frankly bad luck. “This can be paid for by neighboring countries of great wealth. It could be one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, 12. It could be numerous sites, or it could be one large site. But the people will be able to live in comfort and peace and we’ll get—we’ll make sure something really spectacular is done.” It’s easy to dismiss this as the fantasy of a presidential huckster who imagines Trump condos on a Gaza Gold Coast. But is his idea so much worse than the status quo that the rest of the world is offering? The famous “two-state solution,” with a Palestinian state next to Israel, won’t happen as long as Hamas still runs Gaza and could run the West Bank. The Arab states aren’t clamoring to send in peace-keeping forces to eradicate Hamas or govern the strip. The best the world can come up with is to mouth the “two-state” platitude and let Gaza remain a hell-hole where Hamas will revive its reign of terror, and Palestinians who want something different will be tossed off buildings. The reaction to Mr. Trump’s brainstorm highlights in particular that the Arabs don’t really care about the Palestinians. Egypt refused to take over Gaza when Israel offered it along with the Sinai Peninsula after the 1978 Camp David Accords. Egypt wouldn’t even let Palestinian civilian women and children leave Gaza for a temporary refuge at the height of the recent Hamas-Israel war. As for Jordan, in 1971 King Hussein killed and expelled Palestinian nationalists who threatened Hashemite rule. “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt,” said Jordan’s King Abdullah II after the Oct. 7, 2023 massacre. Neither country wants Palestinian migrants who might bring jihadist impulses backed by money and guns from Iran. We doubt Mr. Trump has any appetite to send in the 82nd Airborne to occupy Gaza. We know the American people don’t. But perhaps his pitch will cause the rest of the world to do more to support a post-Hamas government in Gaza that would let Palestinians live in a territory that is better than hell on earth. Appeared in the February 6, 2025, print edition as 'About Those Beachfront Gaza Condos'.
I'm trying to get you to understand when you say "muslims" you're talking about 2B people that live in bunch of different countries, speak different languages, have different cultures, ethnicities etc. Just like you wouldn't say that the Mexicans and the Italians are the same people just because they're both Catholic. But you somehow keep missing that point. If you're talking specifically about the Arabs and the middle east you do have a point.
I sincerely find it hilarious how American muslims voted for the guy whos sending us troops to occupy gaza while American jews voted for the lady promising a 2 state solution lol. Like yes @fchowd0311 @Exiled muslims are much more gullible to disinformation and are severely brainwashed. They tend to favor dictators History will mock American muslims until the end of time. @Nook
Lol Muslims and the Jews wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of this election, even if they all voted for Kamala. Probably in their eyes democrats allowed genocide, Trump is saying there's no point of going back, which in most wars its like that, you think the Armenians are ever gonna go back to Nagorno? No. So under Trump they're misplaced, under Democrats they were killed.
even The NY Times is treating this seriously Trump’s Gaza Plan Has Many Pitfalls, Hamas Among the Biggest President Trump’s proposal to “own” Gaza and transfer its population elsewhere has stirred condemnation and sarcasm, but it is an opening bid and could disrupt a tired diplomatic paradigm. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/world/europe/trump-gaza-hamas-palestinians.html excerpt: President Trump took the world aback with his declaration that the United States was going to “own” Gaza and move out the Palestinians there to build “the Riviera of the Middle East.” As unrealistic and bizarre as it may seem, Mr. Trump was pointing to a serious challenge: the future of Gaza as a secure, peaceful, even prosperous place. A former French ambassador to Washington, Gérard Araud, put the dilemma neatly. “Trump’s proposal for Gaza is met with disbelief, opposition and sarcasm, but as he often does, in his brutal and clumsy way, he raises a real question: What to do when two million civilians find themselves in a field of ruins, full of explosives and corpses?” That is an issue Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has always dodged. He has refused to engage on the question of who will rule Gaza after the conflict, largely because it would undermine his governing coalition, which depends on far-right parties that want to resettle Gaza with Israelis. As outlandish and unworkable as Mr. Trump’s proposal on Tuesday may seem, it is “no less than an historic resetting of decades of received diplomatic wisdom,” said Chuck Freilich, a former Israeli deputy national security adviser. However unrealistic, he said, “it may force the sides to reconsider long-held positions, stir things up dramatically and lead to new openings.” more at the link
Anti-Israel protester gets wrist-slap for trying to ID ‘Zionists’ on packed NYC subway train https://nypost.com/2025/02/05/us-ne...r-trying-to-id-zionists-on-packed-nyc-subway/
Your stench of bad faith can be smelled from over here bud. You seem to post here with a specific agenda of dividing people. This person you tweeted never cared about Palestinians. This person's tweet you shared is offended by the mere phrase "free Palestine" and call people who say that Nazis. You aren't a serious person. Let's figure what your agenda is today. I really want to focus on that today and figure why you really are here wasting time with this nonsense.
I've had the same agenda on these forums for the past 5 years. It's to call out disinformation and radical individuals on both sides of the asile. Sorry that facts hurt. The facts are 88% of American jews voted for Kamala Harris the canidate who promised a 2 state solution and a ceasefire Trump won the Muslim vote by a 2:1 margin after claiming biden was too weak on hamas and he would bomb gaza even more. Trump repeatedly said on the campaign trail Palestinians shouldn't be given their own state. Bernie bros and lefties spent the entire election season screaming genicide Joe and killer kamala. I'm sorry to break it to you but the facts are facts. American muslims voted for the guy whos sending us troops to gaza to occupy gaza permanently. I say this as a Muslim who attends friday prayer every week
Democrats think that Hamas is Kendrick Lamar and the Jews are Drake but in reality the Jews actually are the Beastie Boys @basso @Rocketeer @Scarface281 @Salvy
@Commodore @tallanvor no country wants their refugees Except the imaginary one with rainbow colored flag @Salvy @CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul
