Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

If we don't play well what would be green be a trade able asset. I think he barely has any value as is.

 

We don't really need a traditional point guard. Just need someone who don't make dumb moves with the ball and is competent with scoring. Booker is having a 6.7:2.6 assist to TO ratio. Not as good as Fred but pretty solid. And he is several notches above Fred in the scoring department. Most importantly, he's the kind of closer we've been looking for.

 

Agreed. If he's available, you do the deal. We can always build the team around him later (like the Lakers will do with Luka). We could ship Green out in the offseason if needed.

 

There’s no way Booker is only going to cost 2 FRPs.

 

Here we go. It can be done! Disperse picks where needed (obviously, PHX picks go back to them).

 

We control 3 of their picks, which we are giving them. So it is 3 plus Cam.

The one they give us is pick 30, and only because otherwise they can't do a deal.

I don't think they are trading Booker at all.

 

The one this season is a swap, not a pick.

 

Durant gives us a 2 year window including the rest of this season. I don’t think that’s enough time to gel especially considering our youth and lack of (playoff) experience so basically next year would be championship or bust with Durant. I would rather not mortgage the future for a 36 year old Durant as good as his numbers have been this year at his advanced age.

Not the biggest Jalen Green fan but I’d much rather have him over Booker. Booker gotta be the most overrated “superstar” in this league over the past 5 years. I don’t think he’s nearly as good as his perceived reputation says he is. Sure the stats are there but he doesn’t impact winning like his numbers suggest and I don’t think of him as a true #1. It wasn’t until old man CP3 got there that he went to the playoffs…. And he made a little bit of noise the remaining couple years CP3 was there and that’s it once Paul was gone.

I’d much rather see what this team can do in the playoffs and then adjust accordingly in the summer as opposed to chasing old superstars or flawed stars while giving up valuable pieces.

 

They cannot get a pick from it. We control their 2025 pick and they are not in the conversation for that pick unless we include them (would require them flipping us the Cavs pick)

 

I think many on here are being unreasonable about what it would cost to land Booker. It’ll easily take 4 - 5 FRPs and 1 - 2 of our non-core prospects. It would basically be our final move of the rebuild.

 

Been saying the exact same thing

 

The Doncic trade makes everybody greedy.

 

While true, the Doncic trade included an asset far more valuable than any we should include. This isn't a perfect comparison, but it's be similar to us trading Amen, a first, and Cam for Booker. Would you rather do that or trade a bunch of firsts and filler for him?

 

I think 4 FRPs and a young players (maybe a swap or a SRPs as well) would be the top of the range the Rockets would consider. Basically the top of what I think is the bottom of what you think. Anything past the 4 FRPs and a young player is an immediate will just look elsewhere or stay the course.

FRPs are not created equal. Young players are not created equal. The high end of what you think it will easily take makes me pucker as Booker is already paid well.

San Antonio just traded three picks and a pu pu platter for Fox. The Rockets only have 2 tradeable FRPs of similar quality to the ones SA deal (noting the Chicago pick may be worth a little more than the other two if it conveys). The other picks the Rockets have are probably worth double the value of the picks SA dealt for Fox. I would not trade any of the young players on the Rockets for 2 of the picks SA dealt.

The young players and FRPs the Rockets would deal if dealing 5 FRPs and 2 young players would likely be worth about 10 FRPs of the quality SA sent for Fox on the low end. Maybe I'm valuing the Rocket young players too much, but I doubt there are two young players the Rockets consider as being only worth a future SA FRP.

 

Considering age and Luka being better than Booker, I'd guess FVV, 2031 Hou, and JSJ maybe more equivalent to what the Lakers gave up for Luka.

 

I don’t agree with that at all. AD is a top 10 trade asset.

 

As we can see, the team is running on fumes… with the grueling schedule and injuries, along with putting it that level of effort defensively every game, it’s no surprise. I was thinking let’s roll with what we’ve got into the playoffs, but now I’m thinking a big splash (Without trading away our core) might reenergize this group.

If Durant goes to the Warriors (assuming Butler doesn’t go to PHX, which doesn’t make sense to me since KD>Butler), it looks like PHX would be throwing in the towel. At that point, I wonder if we could flip the PHX picks back, along with Brooks/FVV (figure out how to match the money), Cam, and Reed for Booker. PHX can replenish with some young talent - Cam could be an exciting new face for them, plus their picks back. I just don’t see them trading Booker unless they trade KD, but I’m hopeful we can get an impact scorer.

 

Luka is definite Top 4. The value difference between Luka and AD long term is huge even if the difference this year isn't much with Luka hurt. It was a crazy trade that Dallas got roasted for making. Your not agreeing with my FVV, FRP, and JSJ is probably because it is a crazy deal that Phoenix would get roasted for if they made.

Booker for Amen, a FRP, and Cam would not be as critizized as the Luka deal. I don't follow Bill Simmons much in the past decade, but his trade values list Booker at 16 and Amen at 17 in trade value.

If you are going to use the Luka deal as a model with Houston in the role of the Lakers, it can't be viewed as a close to fair deal for Phoenix. Phoenix has to absolutely get hosed. My deal hoses Phoenix.

Personally, I think the Fox deal is a better model even though I think Sacramento should have gotten at least one good pick though 3 FRPs or equivalent was the value I saw Fox as.

 

we are not the desperate ones. We don’t need to cash in all of our assets for Booker. They’ll take what we give them and they’ll like it, or they’ll blow it up for other teams’ picks and they’ll still be sh#t, and we will still control their picks. We hold the cards; they’ll have to take less for Booker.

BATNA: Best Alternative To A Negotiated Agreement. They don’t have it

We should have pressed our leverage with Brooklyn; we better not go soft on the Suns.

 

How many picks would AD be worth on the open market now? We could classify picks in tiers of 3 (ex: I'd rather have 1 tier 1 pick than 2 tier 3)