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DOGE having access to government agencies is illegal

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. astros123

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    Look at this MAGA boomer. He spent 4+ years spinning braindead low iq conspiracies about Hunter biden's life but when an actual crime happens hes not worried lol. What a disingenuous boomer with no morals.

    IT IS ILLEGAL FOR MUSK TO SLASH SPENDING THAT HAS BEEN CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED. There is a INJUNCTION from a federal judge that Musk stop freezing payments that have been authorized. Musk is breaking the law
     
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    When you move this fast, you don’t ask the lawyers, 'Hey, is this okay?'

    Do the laws matter, though? Do they matter to you? To anyone?
     
  4. Amiga

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    POTUS is immune for official acts.

    POTUS has the power to pardon. Mass blanket pardons have been issued for violent criminals.

    You can draw your own conclusions.
     
  5. astros123

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    Of course Musk has impunity. He'll get a blanket pardon and he'll steal and rob treasury dry. What hes doing is bluntly illegal but when you have the POTUS in your back pocket its easy to get away with it.

    I just find it funny for the past 4 years the MAGATs who have been crying about Hunter bidens supposed corruption and spammed these forums everyday of the newest conspiracy. The same individuals now none of them care about the law now.

    Its all one low iq cult
     
  6. Agent94

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    Hillary Clinton had an e-mail server outside the official confines of the US government and they talked about it for years. An unelected tech bro is taking over the computers of the treasury department and its crickets. That pretty much shows how brainwashed they are. This is orders of magnitude worse than Hillary’s server.
     
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    DOJ agrees to proposed order to limit DOGE's access to Treasury data

    In a filing late Wednesday evening, lawyers with the Justice Department agreed to a proposed order that would largely prohibit the Treasury Department from sharing sensitive financial data with Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency.

    The agreement allows two individuals associated with Musk but employed by the Treasury Department – called special government employees – to have “read only” access to the sensitive data.

    Once approved by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who is overseeing the case, the agreement will stay in place until Feb. 24 when both sides return to court to argue about a long-term preliminary injunction.

    The two special government employees allowed to continue seeing Treasury Department data are Tom Krause and Marko Elez, according to the filing. Krause is the former chief executive of Cloud Software Group, a Silicon Valley tech company. Marko Elez is a 25-year-old engineer who used to work for Musk’s X and SpaceX.

    Earlier, the judge had issued an ultimatum after hearing arguments over DOGE's access to sensitive Treasury Department records: Either the DOJ and the federal unions who brought suit agree to a temporary injunction blocking DOGE's access, or the judge would bring them back to court on Friday to decide whether to issue a temporary restraining order.

    The hearing followed a lawsuit filed by three federal unions that alleged DOGE employees violated federal privacy laws when they accessed data from the Treasury Department, including the names, social security numbers, birthdays, bank account numbers, and addresses of taxpayers.

    During the hearing, lawyers for the Department of Justice struggled to articulate how DOGE plans to use sensitive taxpayer data to reduce the size of the federal government, though they acknowledged that Musk's group of cost-cutters are driving the direction of the entire effort.

    "We have DOGE in the Executive Office of the President that sets the policy. Is that it? One group that has the records and the other group sets the policy -- is that a good way to describe the distinction?" asked Judge Kollar-Kotelly.

    "I think that's accurate, Your Honor. The group outside of Treasury -- the United States DOGE Services -- sets the high level policy," said DOJ attorney Bradley Humphreys.

    Humphreys claimed that Musk himself has not seen the information accessed from the Treasury Department.


    "Our understanding is the information derived from the systems at issue is not being transmitted to him outside of the Treasury Department. He is not within the Treasury Department," Humphreys said.

    "Does he have access to it? Can he go look at it? Has he gone looked at it?" the judge asked.

    " No, Your Honor -- as far as our knowledge, he does not," Humphreys responded.

    Beyond that key claim -- that people outside the Treasury Department have not accessed sensitive taxpayer records -- Humphreys draw a blank regarding what exactly comes next.

    "So, at this point, one in the executive office is developing whatever strategies they have about policy or checking or fraud or waste or whatever they want? Then it would be presumably implemented by ... other people in the Treasury? Am I accurate so far?" Judge Kollar-Kotelly asked.


    "I'm not sure that is accurate, and I just don't have -- I'm not, I just don't have the information necessarily," Humphreys responded.

    "I am not trying to pin you to the wall," the judge said later. "I am just trying to figure this out."

    The lawsuit was brought by the American Federation of Government Employees, the Service Employees International Union, and the Alliance for Retired Americans, who alleged that Musk and DOGE -- with the consent of Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent -- unlawfully accessed the sensitive records without providing any legal justification, public reasoning, or legal procedure to collect taxpayer data.

    According to the lawsuit, DOGE's "full, continuous, and ongoing access" of sensitive data risks the security of millions of Americans.

    "People who must share information with the federal government should not be forced to share information with Elon Musk or his 'DOGE.' And federal law says they do not have to," the lawsuit says.

    The plaintiffs requested a temporary restraining order preventing the Treasury Department from providing DOGE sensitive information as well as enjoining DOGE employees from using any of the records they might have already obtained.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-wei...reasury-department-records/story?id=118498817
     
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    In other news, the National Weather Service was ordered to stop any international contacts.

    Now, think about that for a second. Does weather begin and end at the boundaries of the US? Do American businesses and economic interests ever extend into international waters or even to other countries?

    The NWS provides weather info for shipping lanes. The NWS coordinates with the Canadians and uses the European Model to refine forecasts. The NWS supports US efforts at both poles. The NWS sends incident meteorologists to foreign countries when disasters happen. The NWS provides weather info to countries who cannot afford to stand up their own meteorological agency. The NWS provides hurricane intel to numerous countries.

    There's the appearance of power and then there is real power, even though some call it soft power. You know who is really happy about all this and ready to step in when we abandon our longstanding partners? China is. They have a strong met program and are ready to expand it.
     
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    This right here,.....he really has no reason to do this and made us worse.
     
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    Sigh, gonna assume this judge isn't particularly knowledgeable about the intricate details of IT security at 81 years old...guess it's better than nothing.
     
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    Won't have any natural disasters if none of them will be reported and detected by NWS.

    Just like how covid cases will decrease if you don't report them.
     
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    Giving the Convicted Felon / his hand-picked Treasury Secretary / former illegal alien / DOGE the significant finger,



    The agreement comes after a group of union members and retirees sued the Treasury Department alleging that providing DOGE access to the federal government’s
    massive payment and collections system — and the personal data housed in it — violated federal privacy laws.



     
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    Trump knows everything he does now is an "official act."

    So, "F*** it," he says, "who's gonna stop me?"
     
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    Nobody knows more about Bird Law.
     
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    Gonna take a pass on watching propaganda Joe, right arm of the far right Republican party...
     
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    He was anti-right not long ago and only on the right now because of the grifting and lies on the left.

    still, you should watch. Very interesting.
     

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