DOGE having access to government agencies is illegal

that's not what you originally said

 

Watch live: Democratic senators ‘sound alarm’ over Musk, DOGE

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), along with fellow Democratic Sens. Patty Murray (Wash.), Ron Wyden (Ore.) and Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), will offer warnings about the reported efforts by Elon Musk and his allies at the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to access the federal government’s payment system, among other actions, in a press conference Monday afternoon.

“Musk and his associates were granted access to the U.S. Treasury’s payment systems the same weekend they threatened their way into United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and seized Office of Personnel Management (OPM) computer systems,” a release announcing the press conference said.

The senators also said Musk and DOGE are “abusing the Treasury’s payment system to illegally impound funds.”

The event is scheduled for 3:45 p.m. EST.

Watch it live here.

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5123525-president-trump-elon-musk-access-treasury/

 

Good lord is this early onset dementia

I know you're old but you're not *that old*

Goes without saying that you (or the President or his drugged out friend) can't unilaterally abolish government agencies established by Congress in 1961 because "it was in Project 2025"

I don't read your posts much obviously - I honestly forgot how little you actually know outside of your field.

Here's 2 Manhattan institute fascists arguing about it, though there isn't much argument



Anyway look up your hole, your head is up there & screening is always a good idea!

 

USAID was created by Kennedy in an Executive Order in 1961

 

Just a random drug addict claiming he deleted free IRS e-filing

 

I thought "DOGE" was going to be a kind of advisory commission. Seems to be more than that.

 

SSA's DOGE HR rep will also be the SSA CIO, no conflict of interest there.

 

Every taxpayer has a right to know how every penny of their money is being spent.

My guess is Elon's team of autistic supergeniuses are developing tools to do just that now that they have access to the plumbing.

The left thrives in the shadows, sunlight is their enemy. It's why they are so enraged by DOGE.

 

you gotta pass the bill to know what's in the bill

 

Elon is a DEI hire. Report him to ICE.

 

Just another lie of many.

 

Trump preps order to dismantle Education Dept. as DOGE probes data
Closing the agency would require congressional approval, so the new administration hopes to diminish it in the meantime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...department-dismantling-executive-order-draft/

excerpt:

President Donald Trump is preparing an executive order aimed at eventually closing the Education Department and, in the short term, dismantling it from within, according to three people briefed on its contents.

The draft order acknowledges that only Congress can shut down the department and instead directs the agency to begin to diminish itself, these people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about internal issues.

That work is underway already. The new administration has been trying to reduce the workforce by putting scores of employees on administrative leave and pressuring staff to voluntarily quit.

And roughly 20 people with Elon Musk’s “Department of Government Efficiency,” known as DOGE, have begun working inside the Education Department, looking to cut spending and staff, according to three people familiar with the situation and records obtained by The Washington Post.

At least some of DOGE staffers have gained access to multiple, sensitive internal systems, the people said, including a financial aid dataset that contains the personal information for millions of students enrolled in the federal student aid program.

The DOGE probe, which began last week, is a prelude to a more dramatic effort to make good on one of Trump’s campaign promises: eliminating the Education Department altogether.

A White House official confirmed the White House is preparing for executive action later this month that will fulfill Trump’s campaign pledge to defund the department.

Some Republicans have argued it would be better to wait until after Trump’s choice for education secretary, Linda McMahon, appears before the Senate for her confirmation hearing. Scheduling has been held up as the government ethics office reviews her paperwork, a Senate aide said.

The expected executive order would not shut down the agency, as there is widespread agreement in both parties that doing so would require congressional action, the people familiar said. The Education Department was created by Congress, and only Congress can eliminate it.

Such congressional action is unlikely, people in both parties say. Legislation would require a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate, meaning at least seven Democrats would need to support the plan, which observers say is inconceivable.

A 2023 vote in the House to abolish the department, considered as an amendment to a parents’ rights bill, garnered 161 yes votes, but 60 Republicans joined every Democrat in voting no. The bill was defeated.

“I would not hold my breath that [closing the department] would ultimately become law,” Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Michigan), chairman of the House Education Committee, said in an interview last month. He said he supports closing the agency but that such a plan does not have sufficient support in the Senate, so such legislation would not be his “highest priority” absent a plan from Trump to move a bill forward.

“So in the meantime,” Walberg said, “my efforts would be to find any means by which we may de-power the Department of Education.”

The order is expected to direct the Education Department to develop a legislative plan to present to Congress. But it also will instruct the department to come up with a plan to diminish its staff and functions.

It was unclear how detailed the order will be, but people briefed and others who follow the Education Department closely said they expect the agency will try to move various functions to other federal departments. Project 2025, the conservative blueprint for a second Trump term, detailed where different pieces of the department might land if it were closed.
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more at the link

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I would love to hear some non biased fall out speculation. Education needs a complete overhaul.

 

and while the legal status of some of DOGE's activities might be uncertain, there is nothing "illegal" about subjecting the Dept of Education to this kind of review

 

Imagine if everything was transparent

 

I just want 50 labratories of democracy trying different things. Other states can adopt/copy whats working in other states.

 

Seems very illegal & bad to give total control over all government spending, tax returns etc to - 1 25 year old rando edge lord with no experience

NEW: A 25-year-old who's worked for Elon Musk companies now has direct control over a Treasury system disbursements from which amount to a fifth of the US economy. He does not, our sources say, have "read only" access, but high-level admin privileges on a mainframe housing all the code.

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https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-associate-bfs-federal-payment-system/

 

When your parents social security check is gone & your tax return doesn't get accepted next month- this guy is the one who broke it.

‪Josh Marshall‬ ‪@joshtpm.bsky.social‬

51m

4/ I’ll have a fuller report on this early Tuesday morning at TPM. The relevant point is that I can independently confirm what wired is reporting here and the privileges to alter the code base go even further than described and that code base has in fact been significantly altered.

 

Crazy. Without the Dept of Education, we’d have never beaten the Cylons. Humanity is DOOMED.