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The offical Trump Tariff thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. HP3

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    How? What did this do for us? This isnt even going to do anything about the made up problem you care about.

    In fact Trump bragged that he got 28,000 troops sent to Mexico, THATS LESS than now.

    So what are you laughing at?
     
  2. ThatBoyNick

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    The overarching point here is that, correct me if I’m wrong, the US buys more goods than it sells, therefor everybody will lose and needs to get in line with whatever goal Trump has here (that he won’t make clear).

    The solution listed is for all countries to become self sufficient economically and to bail on trade.

    Im confused on why the US choice, that has been a purposeful made choice for quite a long time, to be a net importer of goods, is framed us being screwed over from other countries. I walk into a store, I fill my grocery cart, I get to the cash register and I say how could you to the cashier when I get the bill, is the vibes here?

    If he wants a nationalist / isolationist economy why not just come out and say it? That would be a trade war on the American consumer, it’s got nothing to do with the other countries.

    This is seemingly a quite left choice economically, free trade has always been the gold standard for the right (and the neo-libs). If the reason is simply tariffs against the world to reverse the US being a net importer of goods.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Trump sought to get a PR win.

    Mexico president is correct, the US is the source of demand for fentanyl so as long as that stays the same the supply will reach it.
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    You are the one who was moaning inflation was going to go through the roof. Now you are whinging because all he got was 10k troops.

    All you do is complain no matter what
     
  6. HP3

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    Because it didnt need to happen to begin with. Why do ANY OF THIS? You and I get nothing out of this. All he did was make our relations with allies worse.

    Are you okay with Elon having acess to all your private information btw? Cause that's what happened. He could literally shut off your social security if he wanted to, you good with that?
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    Canada is in a perilous spot after Trump cut tariff deal with Mexico.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/trump-trudeau-canada-tariffs.html?smid=url-share

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    Canada found itself in a precarious position on Monday morning after Mexico cut a deal with President Trump to postpone tariffs in exchange for a major deployment of forces along the border between the two countries.

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada spoke to President Trump on Monday morning but no such compromise was reached between the two. A senior Canadian government official with knowledge of the call said the situation was still in flux ahead of a second phone call between the two leaders scheduled for 3 p.m. Eastern, but did not express optimism that a compromise could be reached.

    The diverging fates of Mexico and Canada highlight an early rift between the two allies who, together with the United States, have long had a deep tripartite free trade agreement, originally known as NAFTA. Its successor, known as the US-Mexico-Canada agreement, was negotiated by Mr. Trump during his first presidency.

    But when Mr. Trump first threatened tariffs against Canada and Mexico in November, citing illegal migration and fentanyl flowing into the United States from both neighbors, some Canadian politicians rushed to throw Mexico under the bus.

    Ontario’s premier, Doug Ford, a prominent voice on the topic, and others suggested that the United States should form a separate deal with Canada and ditch Mexico. The argument focused on the vast difference between the two borders: Only a fraction of the undocumented migrants and fentanyl entering the United States come from Canada compared to Mexico.

    While Mr. Trudeau did not suggest ditching Mexico, the relationship between the two countries suffered deeply. The senior Canadian official previously said that the trust between them had been reduced to zero.
     
  8. rimrocker

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    LOL. Trump got scared by the markets and backed down. He got nothing from Mexico Biden hadn't already arranged and had to agree to stop assault weapons from going into Mexico. Curious he didn't mention that last part in any of his "Truths."
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    If you genuinely want to hit the books...
    https://carnegieendowment.org/china...the-united-states-run-a-trade-surplus?lang=en

    Might need to break it up into chunks before feeding it into the meat grinder.
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    I bet he watches Trump coin non-stop like a crypto degen.
     
  11. rimrocker

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    https://apnews.com/article/guatemal...rder-patrols-917c0fea87c0a807b371da207d34c8cc

    The Biden administration has struck an agreement with Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala to temporarily surge security forces to their borders in an effort to reduce the tide of migration to the U.S. border.

    The agreement comes as the U.S. saw a record number of unaccompanied children attempting to cross the border in March, and the largest number of Border Patrol encounters overall with migrants on the southern border — just under 170,000 — since March 2001.

    According to White House press secretary Jen Psaki, Mexico will maintain a deployment of about 10,000 troops, while Guatemala has surged 1,500 police and military personnel to its southern border and Honduras deployed 7,000 police and military to its border “to disperse a large contingent of migrants” there. Guatemala will also set up 12 checkpoints along the migratory route through the country.
     
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  12. No Worries

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    Trump ought to write a book called ... Art of the MIsdeal.

    Canada should hold out for the same deal.
     
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    Boom. 10,000 Mexican troops to address what the American voters overwhelmingly voted for - a secure border and a serious fight against fentanyl. All done by the mere threat of a tariff. ....and it's only a 1 month delay.

    Why couldn't Biden do this? Trump has done more to secure the border in 2 weeks than Biden did in 4 years!
     
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    Biden already secured that deal. Lol
     
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  16. No Worries

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    lol.

    Biden did do this. Trump got Mexico to do exactly they agreed to do for Biden. Now, Trump gets to take credit for a Biden acomplishment.
     
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  17. rimrocker

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    Literally two posts above yours.
     
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  18. Space Ghost

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    I don't collect SS. Where do you come up with all of this fear mongering. But you trust the ultra corrupt Biden administration
     
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  19. Surfguy

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    Bully politics

    the art of the steal
     
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