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The Official 2nd Term Trump corruption thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Jan 7, 2025.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Your post illustrates an important difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans believe Americans voters are smart... and should live freely and without government intervention. Democrats believe American voters are dumb... and should have their lives controlled by government and information they receive censored by government. Feel free to pick your side!

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  2. astros123

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    "Republicans believe voters are smart" lol Trump ran on promising he would end inflation on day 1 and have gas prices under 2 dollars his first week. Now hes hiking up the cost of everything for literally no reason xuz he knows he can his base are a bunch of low iq cultist
     
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  3. No Worries

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    Trump is not serious man.

    Trump is clueless on what he is doing.

     
  4. Xopher

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    Impoundment is against the law. The Treasury pays out what CONGRESS tells them to; not the orange felon.
     
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  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Government spending got so out of control under Biden that I'm in favor of anything that puts us on a better trajectory. Pre-COVID, the government was spending around $4 trillion a year. Under Biden, the government spent over $6 trillion EACH YEAR. Last year we almost hit $7 trillion of government spending. A 70% increase in just 5 years -- unreal. If left unchecked, this will wreck our country.

    The Democrats' spending was also the primary cause for inflation (more dollars in circulation = more inflation; and we saw a 60% increase in money supply under Biden). Trump is LOWERING inflation and RESTORING fiscal sanity -- and doing anything it takes to get there. Of course resistance was expected -- there are so many people sucking on the government's teet... they'll whine and cry when they are booted off the gravy train. Thank you President Trump for doing what is difficult but required to fix our nation's finances.


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  6. astros123

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    You sir, are a man with no values or morals. You claim to be a small time conservative yet you are fine with the president eliminating the role of congress and unilaterally make any spending decision he wants. You would never have the same view if it was a democratic president. You're just saying this cuz you're in a cult and worship a king.

    Its just such a sad pathetic group of individuals. No values
     
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  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I want to restore fiscal sanity. We went from spending $4 trillion a year under Trump to spending $7 trillion a year under Biden. That rate of growth is clearly unsustainable -- whether you realize it or not. It's also the #1 reason why inflation soared and Biden-Harris got tossed out of office by voters.

    My values are as strong as a rock. And unwavering. Your values? I don't even think you can articulate them, tbh. You just put on the anti-Trump jersey no matter the issue. If inflation is important to you, then you should support reducing spending -- like what DOGE and Trump are doing. If not, then go ahead and keep yelling from the cheap seats at the players on the field. You're not a player.

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  8. astros123

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    Again. If you want to restore fiscal sanity elect proper congress people to push your agenda. That's how the constitution is formed. Congress controls the purse and George Washington specifically wanted it that way to save us from a trump.

    None of you braindead conservatives are small government or whatever. You're just in a cult who pivots his values day by day to support his king and cult leader trump.
     
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  9. Xopher

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    Perhaps your orange God shouldn't have added 8 trillion to the debt. You conveniently leave that out.
     
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    Is he referring to Trump or Biden in that video?
     
  11. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    About half of that was COVID related -- due to blue state politicians shutting down commerce. Biden's LARGER additions to the debt and deficit were voluntary -- the result of runaway spending decisions. Just recklessly irresponsible behavior... that voters punished. And the cause of our inflation.
     
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    Can we just merge this into the Trump Second Term thread?
     
  13. heypartner

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    Biden
     
  14. HP3

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    Bro if someone goes back one page, they can EASILY see you lying about the deficit ONE PAGE BACK.

    Dont want the tax cuts and what they did do you? Dont want to talk about Obama and what he did for the economy do you?

    I have no idea why you can't argue honestly? Or maybe you really believe you know more than actual economists?

    In any case you are spreading misinformation.
     
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  15. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You are dishonest and poorly informed.. and your arguments reflect very low level understanding of basic financial and economic principles. Biden's spending took us from $4 trillion/year to $7 trillion a year, at a time when there was no reason to do so -- it was actually fighting against what the Fed was trying to do with rates. This massive fiscal stimulus from excessive spending created inflation and the largest additions to the national debt in history (ex-Covid). American voters saw it, and booted Democrats from power (President, House, Senate). Hard to argue with these facts, my guy.

    And yes, I know more than economists. I hire them occasionally, like I hire maids, drivers, and landscapers.

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  16. HP3

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    Then educate me. Address my points. Present your arguments IF YOU ARENT SCARED RIGHT? Surely a 'titan of industry" such as yourself can handle civil discourse right?

    Well..there are definitely bad economists out there to be fair. I mean like leading economists, experts, not the ones you hire.
     
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    You're oversimplifying things and pushing a misleading narrative. Biden didn’t just randomly jack up spending from $4 trillion to $7 trillion—Trump’s last budget was already close to $6.55 trillion, so acting like Biden single-handedly blew up spending is just wrong. Yes, fiscal policy played a role in inflation, but so did global supply chain issues, energy price spikes, and geopolitical turmoil. Pretending it was all Biden’s fault ignores basic economics.

    And about the national debt—Trump added $8.4 trillion in ten-year obligations, while Biden has added $4.3 trillion so far. Even if you take out COVID spending, Trump still outpaced Biden.

    Why.Do.You.Lie.
     
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    ~$2 trillion of 2020 spending (Trump's last year) was COVID related. Which is why I stated "ex-COVID". Normalized for non-COVID years, Biden increased government spending by around $2.5 TRILLION. And that's hard to do because 75% of government spending is pretty fixed (entitlements, interest on the debt). So the increases were largely discretionary items -- which were all avoidable. DOGE is rooting out what exactly happened and will shine a light on it. I expect to find hundreds of billions of dollars of waste and significant corruption.

    Simply put, one cannot argue that Biden didn't MASSIVELY crank up government spending. It's a fact that he did. Nor can one argue that this massive ramp up in spending did not cause inflation. When the monetary base increases by 60%, it's obvious to anyone who has studied a day's worth of economics that the price of goods denominated in dollars will rise. And they did. This is called inflation. And it was the #1 issue in last November's election -- an election which Donald J Trump won in a landslide. He is now carrying out his MANDATE from the voters.

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  19. astros123

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    Biden did not deficit spend through any of his non covid spending. It was done on a bipartsian basis which had responsible offsets to pay for the programs. Your cult hero jammed through 3 trillion dollars of tax scams that went to the top 10%. Again you support the tax scam cuz it supposedly benefits you but dont be a coward and a loser and rewrite history.

    Trump spent more than Biden did and thats a fact. The money that we did spend under biden has led to hundreds of billions of new manufacturing spending coming online. We are seeing actual growth because of the policies passed under the last admin.

    Your cult hero doesnt care about debt and neither do you. Its all a performance
     
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    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Lies above. Biden spent WAAAAAAAY more than Trump. Just look at the 2nd column below. Facts.

    I posted this before and some of you couldn't even read a table (Rocket River). You are still struggling to grasp basic concepts, which has necessitated that I repeat myself often.

    First Column: Year; 2nd Column: Gov't Spending (in trillions); 3rd Colum: Tax Receipts (Revenue) (in trillions); 4th Column: Annual Deficit (in trillions)

    2015 $3.69 $3.25 $0.44
    2016 $3.85 $3.27 $0.58
    2017 $3.98 $3.32 $0.66
    2018 $4.11 $3.33 $0.78
    2019 $4.45 $3.46 $0.98
    2020 $6.55 $3.42 $3.13 COVID - had to spend to finance blue states shutdowns and prevent depression due to Democrats' overractions
    2021 $6.82 $4.05 $2.77 Biden spending binge -- Covid is done at this point
    2022 $6.27 $4.90 $1.38 Biden spending binge -- went over $6 trillion without any COVID needs
    2023 $6.13 $4.44 $1.69 Biden spending binge
    2024 $6.75 $4.92 $1.83 Biden spending ejaculation
     

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