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Plane crash near Washington DC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 29, 2025.

  1. droxford

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    If an investigation reveals that the air traffic controller was incompetent, AND that he/she was a DEI hire, then I will agree with Trump and conservatives here that this is an example of a terrible, deadly consequence of DEI.

    If the fault did not lie with the air traffic controller, or if the ATC wasn’t a DEI hire, then I will agree with liberals here the Trump shouldn’t be saying such things.

    BUT… I think it’s too early to make accusations either way.
     
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    air ambulance:


     
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    What the heck
     
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    What part of firing the head of TSA do you not understand?
     
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    Vote Republican, more people will die.
     
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    that the TSA has nothing to do with ATC.
     
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    false.
     
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    Having watched a lot of air disasters , my opinion is that its mostly on the helicopter and little if any blame is on ATC or airplane pilots , or change in runway.

    I imagine the helicopter is very hard to see.

    If night vision goggles were the cause ( as im seeing here on bbs ) investigation will recommend changes to military's SOP on training flights.

    Piloting is a professional profession. ATC has always been an understaffed high stress position.

    How safe the FAA and NTSB have made our flying system ( despite the immense traffic ) is commendable.

    Crashes like this are a tradgedy and if we learn a lesson that allows us not to repeat it , good .

    To argue that it never should have happened and start to blame incompetence right off the bat is knee-jerk .

    Shouldn't be politicized , DEI hires my ass. Republicans have been talking about government incompetency for 50 years . And look, in terms of Law, and corruption , and corporate malfeasance.... yeah the govt has been pretty bad overall. But in terms of air safety we are pretty damn good, TSA aside, which is security theatre.
     
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    interesting. prior to this crash, the last fatal crash in the US was in 2009. where have you been watching "a lot of air disasters?"
     
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    The TV show

    Air crash investigations, it was on Smithsonian channel i think . There's also one on youtube called Mayday .
    I also watch other aviation content , im somewhat of an enthusiast.

    definitely not a professional. But my opinions may be somewhat founded in reality .
     
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    Please stop embarrassing yourself.

    Even @deb4rockets, who is surely not a Trump fan - and who is an expert in the field, she worked in air traffic control - said it doesn't make sense to blame Trump for this.

    Equally, I agree with @droxford that blaming DEI for this is, at the very least, entirely premature, and likely incorrect. It seems like whoever was piloting the helicopter simply committed a horrible error that caused this tragedy.
     
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    Pretty much.
     

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