If Trump can pull of a decent number of the reforms he wants - and their isn't any long-term Constitutional issues - he will be remembered as a top 10 President or better. Lincoln, Washington, FDR all have stood the test of time. Andrew Jackson has been vilified but objectively he was an incredibly strong and influential President.... same with Teddy Roosevelt.... then Jefferson and Eisenhower. I think that if we avoid collateral damage Trump has a chance to get as high as in the 7-10 range.
Wiping the floor? Dude all you do is spew disinformation and lies on these boards and you look like a dumbass in doing so. Two days ago claimed we were spending 50 million on condoms in Gaza cuz foxnews told you. Turned out it was all fake and disinformation. Youre brainwashed my dude
Woodrow Wilson was a terrible racist, a classist and a religious bigot --- but he was also President during a time period when most of America was the same way --- and for all of his flaws, he also had some very progressive ideas.
You know , maybe having a country run by douchebag lawyers wasn’t such a good idea. Dems are just there to badger trumps nominees and they are coming off as sore losers and a bunch of bought assholes. Even blaming a plane crash on the president. Lame.
Are you delusional? Top 10 president? Every historian has him near the bottom 5. Nobody in their right mind would ever put him in the top 10. This has to be the most delusional thing you've said. Genuinely nobody has Trump in the top 20 of any ranking The guy who led a insurrection and called the military losers isn't a top 10 president. He has no meaningful legislation he's signed other than tax cuts. The guy who pardoned thousands of domestic terrorists is a disgrace
No im just not delusional . The guy who installed fake electors and went against the constitution wont be remembered as a top 10 president in any ranking and id bet any money on it. Trump is a disgrace for his actions on January 6. He wanted his VP hung and had no issue with the mob attacking the capital. I have alot of respect for @Nook opinion but thats the most delusional thing hes ever said.
Yeah the guy who pardons criminals convicted of seditious conspiracy aka domestic terrorism charges is a disgrace to this country forever. Not a hot take
Trump must’ve ****ed your wife. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be like a chihuahua on everyone’s leg about him.
How President's are viewed changes greatly over time. It is very hard to predict how they will be viewed long term, especially when so much of how they are viewed depends on what is happening in the world around them and how their actions in the Whitehouse impacts the office and the country 10-50 years down the road. I am not predicting that Trump will be a top 10 President, I am saying however that is his upside if the majority of what he wants to do happens and is successful 10-20 years from now. LBJ and Truman were considered terrible when they left office and now both of them are in the top 10. George Herbert Walker Bush was viewed quite negatively as well - and now many historians have him ranked near or above far more popular Presidents like Clinton and Reagan. John Adams was considered a disaster and now is in the top 10.
You can’t bring up pardons, dumbass. You call me brainwashed and you’re over here bringing up Pardons. You need a life. I’m gonna go live mine. I will check back on your little **** posts later. I’m sure there will be many.
Which reforms? The guy says he will make everything the best ever, so if we take that at face value, sure he could be #1. But what are things in specific that are plausible that could do so much good that he’s viewed as a top tier president in spite of all his flaws? A tall order
One set of grifters has been replaced by another set of grifters. Lawyers have been replaced with CEO's. It is different flavors but the same ice cream.
LBJ passed the great society. Millions of people gained healthcare under his watch. Truman was responsible for tons of reforms especially on the labor front which transformed this country into what it is today. Trump hasnt expanded the social safety net. Trump tried elminiating healthcare for 25 million in his first term. Trump just signed an EO raising prescription drug prices by banning medicare from lowering prices. Trump just kicked off 4 million people off their insurance last week. This is just utterly delusional thinking from you. Not a single reputable historian has trump anywhere but the bottom 5. Jon meacham one of the top historians said that Trump pardoning indivudals convicted of sediious conspiracy is one of the most disgraceful things any president has ever done and it will drag him to the bottom 3. What folks will remember in 50 years is january 6 and Trump pardoning those insurrectionists. What a delusional take from you sincerely, You're one of the smartest people on these forums. What a disappointment
Yeah pardoning people who beat and assaulted cops is bad. 150+ individuals who assaulted cops were pardoned by Trump even though majority of them had 5+ years left on their sentence. Its a disgrace
Like literally he spent last night watching TV, live tweetign his reaction to a plane crash in which he said we should blame the pilots and that somebody should "do something!" about the FAA he just gutted, then came in this morning and slurred and rambled through a presser in which he basically blamed black people and desegregation for a military helicopter hitting a passenger plane. He did this standng next to his newly named Sec of Transportation - a man who just took over after being on MTV's Real World/Road Rules Challenge decades ago, and his alcoholic domestic abuser insurrectionist SecDef who was literally on Fox News blathering about how he was going to end wokeness as his helicopter smashed into the jet. That's not spin - that's an objective description of how the President of the United States spent the last 12 hours.
Immigration reform - he has the chance to set the policy going forward on immigration. I personally do not agree with his rhetoric or how he is doing it, but if it is popular, it very well could have a long term impact on how immigration and enforcement is handled. Tax reform - again, it isn't an issue of whether I agree with it or not (I certainly don't), but he has already had a massive impact on tax laws in the USA and he is going to pass another massive tax bill. Trade - he has deviated quite a bit from the SOP of the USA since pre-NAFTA. If he has long term changes that prove successful, there isn't likely to be a lot of changes. The expansion of Presidential power - and the weakening on regulations and how civil employees are viewed and hired. That doesn't even get into foreign policy. He is an extremely ambitious President - the most ambitious since FDR..... there is a very good chance that either his power fractures or his changes implemented have a negative effect.... but there is no guarantee of that, and the fact that he is as ambitious as he is, and has the concentration of power that he has --- means that he is capable of most extreme outcomes. That makes it possible that he will be remembered as a bottom 10 or top 10 president. We think we know now - but seeing how history has changed how Clinton and GHWB are remembered shows how volatile it really is until years later.
