So once you remove Trump's dick from your mouth, will you answer how Trump will unpoision the blood of our country that migrants have caused?
I'm done engaging with you, at least for now, after your horrific homophobic tirade. I expect the D&D's normal left leaning crowd will forcefully condemn your conduct @DaDakota @FranchiseBlade @JuanValdez @Nook @mtbrays @Rocket River I can only imagine the QUOTE firestorm a conservative poster would get from the liberal crowd after such a tangent.
I don't think you know the first thing in how a marginalized groups feels threatened by language and rhetoric. Saying you have a dick in your mouth is as phobic as making fun of a dude who won't go out because of his girlfriend and saying stuff like "the p***y got you on a leash". You don't know the first thing about homophobia. What you know a lot about is having fascist dick in your mouth not allowing you to own up to Trump's actual words spoken about non white people in his recent past because you are too cowardly to confront them and own up to the language he expresses routinely because then you'd have to admit that yes, people have good reason to compare him to Nazi like fascism
I don't think it is realistic to assume that people who already have a passport would ever lose it (unless they are terrorists or something).
A year ago no one thought that the President of the United States would issue an Executive Order attempting to nullify the Fourteenth Amendment either. We are living through a radical period in politics in the Western World and especially in the USA. I think that it is a mistake - but if Trump and supporters want to push a Constitutional Amendment, they have that right and if ratified it is the law. Also - the only way what Trump is trying to do (and I say this making no judgment of it) will not cause issues is if the USA has far more restrictive borders. I say this because there are many millions, even many tens of millions of Americans in just the last 50 years that are US citizens because they were born in the USA but had parents that were not documented or on expired green cards. As a result, we will require massively more police and enforcement as the number of undocumented Americans grow as children from undocumented Americans are born and grow up and have their own children. It can work if the USA greatly restricts the number of undocumented people in the country - and that goes beyond just the Southern border, but those that arrive via plane and then leave. It will require a lot of resources to enforce. Is it worth it to the American people? I really don't know, I just know the reality of enforcement will require a great deal of resources.
Again, the people who have a passport are not affected, and the American citizens already voted for more restrictive borders. Trump is doing what he said he would do, before he got elected. Everything else is conjecture.
You keep bringing up passports but that isn't what the Fourteenth Amendment or the line of cases for 130 years have said. Also - Trump has avenues to enforce a more restrictive border without violating the Fourteenth Amendment. The USA has Amendments and a proper protocol for repealing and issuing new Amendments --- and everyone (including the President) is required to follow those protocols. Deciding that you do not like the Fourteenth Amendment and issuing an Executive Order attempting to invalidate it sets a very dangerous precedence that honestly everyone should be against. Right now - it potentially benefits nativists and Trump supports.... but at some point in the future, it will be a Democratic President that can use it as a basis to issue an Executive Order to neutralize the Second Amendment or any number of other ones. I have watched for the last 25 years as the power of the Executive has consistently grown and stripped power from the rest of the branches and it is problematic and that applies to both parties. Once a door is open - it becomes very difficult to close it. This time it is Trump - next time it may be AOC or someone else that uses that open door to run all over the Constitution.
I agree with you that it would take more than an executive order, so this may largely be symbolic and will be struck down. My point was that even if it were to be upheld, people like @rocketsjudoka or @geeimsobored would not be affected.
Then you don't know the basics of how societies function. Saying that future birthright claims from immigrant parents doesn't count as "real citizens" results in a atmosphere where the population subconsciously devalues the citizenship status of those who were grandfathered to what is now not considered "real citizens". It harms moral and unity also because those who were grandfathered in will question if they truly deserved to be citizens and those with predisposed bigotry will weaponize this fact to ostracize and demonize.
I hear that ... THERE IS A CRISIS AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER ... and our OLD, INFIRMED POTUS is doing nothing about it ... not unless Chinese tariffs are the answer. Spoiler BTW, STFU about constant fear mongering. It is not like Free Speech on X; both sides IRL can do it. Now I could see you complaining that when the Ds fear monger they are a bunch lost newbs, compared the pros on the R side.
Does the new executive order take away citizenship from people who already have it, or does it just stop new people from getting it? From what I understand, it sounds like, from now on, citizenship won’t be given to anyone unless one of their parents is already a U.S. citizen. Am I getting that right? It doesn’t seem to say anything about taking citizenship away from people who already have it.
Sure. why not. @fchowd0311 you should get to know a homo; they are not bad people ... not there is anything wrong with that.
Why do you think the manner in which I got my citizenship is bad? Can you express your ideas of why its bad with corresponding statistical data and analysis?
It doesn't take it away from people who already have it. @Nook is right, I don't even think it will be upheld in court. A constitutional amendment would be required, not just an executive order.
Thank you. I will expand my horizons and learn about homo people more. But in the mean time I want to know how Trump is going to solve the Hattian threat so my kitty cat is safe. @HTM what is Trump doing about that problem?
Word on the Street is that Trump and his black sharpie are removing "the woke" from THE US Constitution ... which should be back online any minute ... this whole giving blacks and women the right to vote was not the Framers intent, doncha know?
It's understandable that for a country to function effectively, it must have control over who is eligible for citizenship. I don't blame any parents for wanting their children to obtain U.S. citizenship—it's a significant advantage that opens many doors. If parents can secure this opportunity for their kids, it's entirely reasonable for them to pursue it. However, for us to achieve things like free college education or a universal basic income (UBI), there must be some level of control over who qualifies for citizenship. Without such measures, it would be irresponsible to assume that parents worldwide wouldn’t try to have their children born on American soil to access these benefits. Effective regulation is essential for sustainable policies.
